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I was at the Boston event. At several points people started loud trans right chants which I think is a strategic mistake. This makes it too easy to reframe this as a trans protest rather than anti facism/anti 2025 since a huge portion of the population just dismiss trans rights protests out of hand.
People dismissing trans right: fuck yeah this is a good time
The same people when their own rights are dismissed: wait what the fuck why can you get away with this, this is bullshit
The huge portion of the population better wake the fuck up because as long as the powers can oppress trans people, they can and will oppress you too.
With allies like these
No. It is time to stop being complicit in trans erasure. No more of this “wait your turn” shit. I will not leave my queer brothers, sisters, and everything between/beyond behind for some vague notion of “optics.” We bring them with us. They deserve justice and support.
Stop sacrificing marginalized groups for broader appeal it doesn’t even grant. Hell be brutally practical: We sacrificed Palestinians and LGBT folks for the election, what did we gain from it?
I don't think that having an effective strategy with a small set of demands focused on American's top concerns right now, immigration, cost of living, & inflation, doesn't mean we leave anyone behind. we still bring them with us.
We champion nationally on broadly popular pain points. We mobilize locally on protecting our friends. Use the protests and activism to identify, young, future political leaders. Bring them up through the city council. Bring them up to the Mayorship. Governorship.
I can't fathom a world where Republican politicians will ever say "yeah okay were wrong trans people have rights - our bad". Ever. We have to force them, but we don't have that power. We don't have the power for a segregation-like showdown. What supreme Court is going to uphold trans rights? Who's going to call in the national guard? What do you propose we do in places that red senators live and breathe that makes them reconsider?
We have to get the red states involved - broadly. We need to need a general strike. We need unionization. We need to take back our power with collective action. We need to be an unstoppable phalanx of pain that will burn all the wealth and value they steal from us to the ground until we get what we want.
We need to have momentum and energy and excitement and a slate of candidates in 2026 that will stand up and FUCKING FIGHT. We need to replace the impotent, geriatric representatives we have with someone whose spine isn't already bent.
The most impactful thing we can do to protect and help our brethren is to get power and give them their rightful seat. That starts locally. So fight with them. Fight for them. But have it be separate from the opposition to what is going on in D.C.
But what do I know. I'm not an organizer or an activist or a strategist. I'm as good as a 5 yr old. It just seems to me that true salvation will only come from running head first into states rights. Long term building of future leaders. National holiday election day, mandatory voting, and strong pushes to remove the cap on the house of representatives so that the voice of the people is just a little less distorted by money and land. That's my victory.
The comment above said that people need to stop even vocalizing support for our trans friends and and family at a protest because it will (allegedly) alienate people. That is literally the definition of leaving people behind. They are calling for them to be explicitly excluded. My reaction is very justified and my description is accurate.
I get where you’re coming from but your interpretation is way too generous and permissive of that behavior. We didn’t win gay marriage by telling queer people to stay in the closet and hold secret relationships so as to not offend people. People who transition/change their names are being politically hemmed in. They can’t use pronouns, they can’t use preferred names, they’re being removed from discrimination policies, their passports are now entirely in question. We are past the theoretical, this is happening right now and it has to be addressed immediately. A sitting congresswoman isn’t even allowed to use the correct bathroom for her.
No, I will not leave them behind. I will loudly proclaim them to be my friends and I will fight for them every day along with other important issues. The strategy is “we support all marginalized groups.” We don’t leave some behind because we believe it to be politically expedient. Leaving people behind is not a strategy.
Maybe I am being too generous, but from everything I see now people are not generous enough. It's a random person on the internet for crying out loud. Who knows if they're even real. Maybe they are. Maybe they do want to erase trans people. I'll never know. And honestly. Who cares? Their opinion only really matters if they're in your advocacy group.
I guess my point ultimately is Americans (as a whole) don't fucking care about marginalized people. Democracy's security wasn't even in the top 5! So if they can't be arsed to care about the dissolution of a representative government what makes you think you'll get the support you need on a national level?
That's why I love capitalizing on state's rights. We did it in 2004 with same sex marriage in California. It forced every state to recognize the unions. Things were set back with prop 8. Yes. But change comes from the states.
So to me it's a sound strategy - when going for national level attention focus on things that have broad national appeal. God. I crave a DNC leader with some actual fucking vision for a change. Someone that will take the billions in national fundraising money and shove it down to the local level and build activist groups.
But you're also very, very right. Research into understanding how to even help them and how effective it is being mothballed. Scrutinized. Censored. I can't fathom their terror as they're being scapegoated and erased. I guess that's our beliefs diverge. Sectioning fights between local and national stages isn't leaving people behind to me - it's how to support them, but that's why I talk. To think. So, thank you.💖
Look I get that you’re very well meaning and I appreciate that spirit, but I do not understand how you can look at what’s going on and use the word “maybe”
Wasn't gonna reply again, but I want to clarify. By they I meant OP because I wanted to be gender neutral. I have no way of knowing OPs mind.
They (Republicans and others), as I assume you're referring to, want to erase trans people - 100%. I don't extend that assumption to specific people.
I'm loath to commit the ecological fallacy by using population data to infer something about an individual.
Fuck off with this. Trans people are our brothers and sisters and they deserve our vocal and unabashed support just like anyone else. These policies are going to kill many of them. Our love for them may save lives because it shows them that people have their backs. And it is simply the right thing to do. Triangulating is not working as a political strategy. Stand on some fucking morals for once.
Fascism is all about finding a minority and shitting on them. This version is leveraging trans people and immigrants to shit on. Being vocally pro trans is about as anti fascist as you can be right now.
Fascism seeks to divide people. We fight that by fighting for the people who are most marginalized and who they wish to separate from our communities.
You are missing the point. If the protests arent taken seriously it doesnt matter whats chanted. Its not about criticizing every thing thats wrong with Trump because many people agree with large parts of it. Its about getting the main message across, that hes a fascist that needs to be stopped.
And you're missing the point that if you're willing to ignore trans people "in order to be taken seriously", then you're siding with the fascists on how to treat trans people. They will take advantage of that.
The existence of trans people is being erased from our government's documents right now. If both sides are ignoring trans people, what the fuck do you think is going to happen? I'll give you a hint:
"First they came for trans people, and I did not speak out- because I was not trans..."
Now that I think about it some more, youre actually right. Every problem should be adressed and voiced as often as possible. No matter how you do it, theyre always gonna try to invalidate it somehow. But as soon as millions walk the streets every day they wont be able to anymore.
I was about to respond to your original comment but saw you changed your mind, respect.
Completely agreed.