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[–] [email protected] 27 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Wait, how did they mess with passports?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago

They’re refusing to issue passports to people who have had their gender marker legally changed, and some bigoted employees have been illegally confiscating documents (like birth certificates and social security cards) from those who try anyways.

So if your drivers license gender marker doesn’t match your birth certificate, they’ll refuse to issue the passport, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person behind the desk will steal both when you try to apply. So now you don’t have a passport and you need to go through the arduous process of getting all new ID paperwork just to prove who you are.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago

From my sister about my 17y.o. trans niece: "Unfortunately, [niece] had a children's passport (expired now), so she's in the group who would not be able to get a passport anymore because her birth certificate and social security don't currently match each other and don't match her passport records."

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 hours ago

They are stealing the documents of trans people who go to get new documents including passports, leaving them without identifying paperwork (and identified by the authorities by the paperwork they lost) in a time where that is very convenient for the people in power, and threatening them with arrest if they ask for them back. In addition to what has been said already

[–] [email protected] 36 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

non-binary people had been getting “X“ instead of M or F on their passport. The Trump administration will no longer allow those passports to be issued

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Seems to be more than that, one person was outright refused any passport, even male, and were threatened with arrest if they asked any more questions. All paperwork (birth certificate etc) was kept by the office in LA.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There was a story about how they wouldn't renew some transgender persons passport the other day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They confiscated it, wouldn't give it back and were threatening to arrest her. There are also reports of trans people that were renewing their passports by mail and told they wouldn't be getting them back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Ugh.

You just know if it was someone sadly following the new requirements, it would have been a very apologetic taking of it and that would be the end, even if traumatic.

When they threaten to arrest them, they're in on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The entire passport office is shut down right now .

They are not issuing new passports.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

For anyone trans or NB, starting with applications received from 1/16. Others are not impacted yet AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Unless you mean because it's 3 am on a Sunday, this is blatent misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just the three trans people I know that are trying to leave the country right now, my brother's family, and a bunch of family friends that come from a family of pilots and flight attendants.

I'm sure they are the only people having trouble in the whole country. Must be an isolated incident. ... ...

They are all located out west and in the Midwest, so maybe it's just the Chicago office and the website. I don't know if anybody has tried doing it through mail correspondence yet but that takes a little bit more time anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

That's completely different than, "The entire passport office is shut right now.". You were either being unnecessarily hyperbolic, or intentionally spreading misinformation. Neither helps in situations like this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

There have been multiple people in local groups that have reported this happening to them this week. Going to get documentation updated, sent home without anything - not even documentation with natal sex. Local queer org put out an advisory - reached out to all shrinks that work with queer people.

[–] weariedfae 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, for real? For everyone?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

For anyone with an x or that is trans. Renewals for them is awaiting on a policy update.