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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

https://cleantechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/2024-12-China-Top-20-Model-December.png

A lot of those cars are NOT electric, but ICE cars with an electric add on so we call them hybrid.
It's complete bullshit to call a hybrid car electric. Maybe it would also be bullshit to call them ICE cars, because they are HYBRID for fucks sake.

It's equivalent to call an 18 wheeler Truck a passenger car, because it can take 1 passenger next to the driver. But that would of course not be within the standard classification. So how is it OK to call a hybrid an electric?
https://www.acea.auto/fact/passenger-cars-what-they-are-and-why-they-are-so-important/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Only one of those is an actual EV, the others are different forms of hybrid.
Which leads me to another point. That the BEV term is also ridiculous, because it's the ONLY form of EV that is actually an EV, so the B is redundant.

This is marketing bullshit to mislead politicians to grant advantages to non EV cars. And it should be illegal to call a hybrid an EV, because it's not.
The worst is possibly the EREV which is not just misleading, but 100% misleading, as it's a car that drives 100% on gas only. It runs on an ICE engine that supplies continuous power. The electricity serves about the same function as a transmission does in an ICE car, transferring that power to the wheels. Who the hell would call a normal car a TRANSMISSION car? It's obviously not TRANSMISSION powered!!!

This pisses me off, it should not be legal to use such misleading terms. They are bundling apples and oranges and calling it the same.

In an ICE car EVERYTHING except the engine is electric, and it has a battery required to work. By the above standard, an ICE car is electric too.
So whats next? ICEV!! Which in fact all but the BEV in the picture you posted are.

PS:
I'm not scolding you, you did fine posting that accurate picture of the different terms. 🥰
I'm scolding the ones bundling all of the above together as if they somehow are the same thing, when clearly they are not.

[–] Shiggles 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A plug-in hybrid is kinda like you built a BEV and an ICE into the same car - I wouldn’t say that one should be called all electric, but it’s at least capable of pretending to be one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

A plug-in hybrid is kinda like you built a BEV and an ICE into the same car

Absolutely, which is why it's neither electric or ICE, it's a hybrid.

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