this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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Context: https://lemmy.world/comment/14613536 Screenshotted context just in case:

A user claims that the killing in Palestine stopped under Biden now. I point out that biden had full-throatedly supported the genocide for over a year. A mod deletes my post and says that biden didn't "state" (keyword here) full-throated support for genocide.

I counter by saying I consider sending billions in support of genocide counts as full-throated support for genocide. I also point out that I didn't say Biden stated his support for genocide and that he didn't need to outright state it because actions speak louder than words.

I receive a temp ban for that counter and the mod adds a response where they claim the weapons were "provided for defense from Iran, full stop." which sounds to me like actual misinformation because how the hell does bombing hospitals in Gaza defend Israel from Iran? I'm not bothered by their stupid opinion, but I am bothered that they are enforcing it through moderation.

I ran into a similar moderation problem on the Political Memes community also on .world, but I didn't bother making a post here for that because that's just a dumb meme community and I was better off just blocking it, but now this is concerning a world news community and it's awful to see something like this happening in a community that's supposed to keep people aware of the news.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong and it actually is misinformation to say it's full-throated support of genocide to send billions in weapons to a country using those weapons to commit genocide. Please let me know what you think!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

[email protected] explicitly doesn't moderate based on personal opinions as long as they are within community and instance rules.

I can say that the comments in the body post screenshot wouldn't have been removed on [email protected]. You can check our modlog for how we operate https://m.lemmy.zip/modlog?community=14086

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Likewise we operate on different ethos. Removing content for “calls to violence” isn’t something I can ethically condone. Violence is how nearly every civil liberty and human right has been won from the state.

I prefer minimal moderation based on the spirit of the rules rather than rules lawyering where clever people try to abuse them because “it doesn’t technically say X” to get around being arseholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We are pretty much in sync. The major difference being calls to violence. Ignoring how I personally feel, it's illegal under UK law where instance is hosted. So the terms of service explicitly forbid it. Though instance admin haven't ruled out moving to other jurisdiction, especially since the latest adult content law being passed there.

Threats of violence or harm: Any threats or incitement of violence against individuals or groups, including threats of terrorism or personal harm.

https://legal.lemmy.zip/posts/terms_of_service/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So, is there any chance to consolidate [email protected] and [email protected], or not?

From an outside perspective it just seems strange to have two apparently compatible communities competing with each other at similar levels of monthly activity (4.3k vs 4k) while they could be merged into one more active community

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be opposed if they wanted to, but I couldn't see myself moving to .zip if the instance bans such speech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

From the comment above

I can say that the comments in the body post screenshot wouldn’t have been removed on [email protected].

I had a quick look at the modlog, seems okay? https://lemmy.zip/modlog/14086

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you accept another mod? I know that wasn't the case when the community was still 2.8k monthly active users, but it's now 3.9k4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was open then and I'm open now. I received 0 offers so far.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

@[email protected] sent me a DM either on Matrix or via Lemmy if you are interested.