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"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Setting aside that the discussion was never a legal one (and either way, what is legal does not mean is moral);

The tool is still very relevant. If you have the intent to kill many but only a stick, you probably won't get as far because sticks are not as dangerous as guns, or even words for that matter, when used.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the strawman, I see now you're arguing in bad faith (or are one of those Americans hyper focused on guns)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, look, an ad hominem. Cool.

Firearms are not, themselves, the problem, despite however much people want to treat them as though they are. Likewise, in the UK, kitchen knives and scissors are not the problem, although the gov't treats them as though they are.

Guns, knives, sticks, cars, and yes, even explosives, are tools. If you eliminate the causes that turn people to violence, you eliminate the use of the tools to commit violent acts. But no one is willing to discuss violence as a result of things like economic warfare or systemic racism; they insist that violence exists because the tools used in violent acts exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The discussion was never about the guns, dumdum (this, btw, is an ad hominem)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is like saying guns don’t kill people

This you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Still missing the point.

The criticism was on your "words don't kill people" part.

Neither guns nor words spawn out of nothing.