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[–] imaqtpie 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sometimes, users make comments and posts that are tricky to moderate. In those situations, it appears the 196 mods wanted to be a bit more lenient, while the admin wanted to be a bit more strict in terms of removing that content. It's not one specific thing, it seems like more of an accumulation of small decisions that built up and caused the mod team to make a rash decision.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Locking the existing version of a community and forcing people to move to another instance without any prior consultation is indeed quite rash

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ada does not accept sealioning and "Just asking questions"-types in the very trans-friendly space on blahaj.zone, which doesn't seem to be an issue for the mod team (showing how much they are out of touch - moving 196 to .world is a bad move, because such user conduct is more acceptable on .world). Also, it seems that the decision wasn't "rash" - A commenter in the "what went wrong"-post remembered that a mod off-handedly wrote that they were thinking about moving to .world about a month ago (and got pushback even back then). Also, trying that move without even consulting your community once is either pretty bold or pretty stupid, depending on viewpoint.

[–] imaqtpie 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have absolutely no problem with Ada, she has a lot of experience moderating around LGBTQ issues and she seems to do a fine job.

But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a difference of opinion between the community mods and the admin as to how the community should be moderated. There are certain communities on my server where I have removed comments and the mods have been upset about it and requested that I give them space to moderate their communities. It's a gray area and requires compromise at times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

If the moderators had done their job in the response time that is appropriate for the protection of the community and to the standards of the site admin, who picked up the slack (since it's their hardware and their legal risk, it's pretty obvious that admins have the last say), and had worked from local accounts to avoid federation issues that were brought up, there would be no need for a move at all. so there is no "gray area" - the mods behind the move did not want to do the "work" of keeping a second browser with their local accounts open and check them regularly.

None of this excuses the way the responsible mods seem to think of their community - they are not cattle to be driven over to another ranch, it is not in their rights to uproot a community againt their will without communication.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

The bigger issue was that since the mods were from world, reports were federated late and acculated. Mods were asked to create blaj accounts to actually moderate the site, but they used them like once a day and reports still accumulated. This is why the admin/ada started checking the reports, because no one was doing it.

So moss didn't want Ada to moderate 196 but they weren't doing it either, what the fuck?