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Democrats in denial over Trump defeat, voters say: ‘Haven’t learned the lessons’ (www.theguardian.com)

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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Did they personally brake the legs of all the leftist voters so they don't vote for their preferred candidate? Or did they just run a campaign against him and all the passionate Bernie voters just decided to believe their campaign and not vote for him?
I don't see an explanation here that supports that "Bernie would won the election" narrative.
And I don't think it's a good thing, I totally agree that he would be the best president US ever saw and he absolutely, unequivocally was the best candidate with the best ideas. I just don't believe american voting population wants what's best for them, there is much to be done to undone centuries of capitalist propaganda. But this work doesn't start with escaping into fantasy world, it stops there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They didnt even give Bernie camera time, you are ignorant beyond belief my god

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

You probably think that if you attack me that means your arguments hold more weight, but you are sorely mistaken on that. I am slightly tired of you not actually engaging with what I'm writing, so let me state it last time, and I would like you to read it this time.
The fact that Bernie wasn't able to win a popular vote in the democratic primaries twice doesn't support the idea that he will be better at the general elections. Whatever opposition he faced, whatever they did to him in your opinion, will be tenfold in the generals. The opposition there will be stronger and richer. The notion that everyone secretly agrees with him and only evil they are keeping him from getting into the office is a very comforting one, but none of the numbers support it. Unfortunately.