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Democrats in denial over Trump defeat, voters say: ‘Haven’t learned the lessons’ (www.theguardian.com)

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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[–] WoodScientist 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

He lost in 2020 because of a coordinated campaign to get all the centrist candidates except Joe Biden to drop out, while Warren stayed in as a progressive candidate against Bernie.

They did this precisely because he was on track to win the popular vote among the Democratic base. No candidate was set to win a majority of the popular vote, but Bernie was looking at a clear plurality.

Bernie WAS winning the popular vote until the DNC deliberately prevented him from doing so.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That's a very interesting theory that for some reason circulates around.
It has nothing to do with reality, both because in the final roaster there were both Bloomberg and Buttigeg, who got 3 million and a million votes respectively, and who aren't exactly paragons of the leftist values, and also because more people voted for Biden than for every other candidate combined, he got 4 million votes more than Bernie, Warren, Bloomberg, and Buttigeg combined.
I don't know where did you got all those theories, but they once again, seem to not correlate with reality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago

It would be a nice story, in theory, but unfortunately in reality in 2020 finals there also were such bastions of leftist values like Bloomberg and Buttigieg. Which still would not matter because Biden got more votes than all the other candidates combined.
Which once again brings us to the question, where are all the Bernie voters that are suppose to bring his victory? Do they don't know how to vote, do they too apathetic to do that or do they just not exist?