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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"The Chinese oligarchs are taking over!" - US oligarchs probably

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the people from both nations are realizing how much bullshit they've been fed by the media about each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost. I've seen more Chinese users surprised that the situation in the US isn't propaganda, like many USians needing 2 jobs just to survive, or paying incredible amounts for medical care. The bit on USians being surprised the propaganda about China being bogus is true though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I wouldn't say many Americans need 2 jobs to survive.

Usually the people you're referring to aren't living as frugally as they could be, and they want to be entitled to excesses they don't need.

They're the people who can barely afford living in a major city, but moving out to the country isn't "good enough" for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Horrendous take. The biggest issue isn't with the workers, but the system that funnels their production to a shrinking and microscopic number of hands at the top.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Both can contribute to the problem. I'm not even blaming "the workers." I'm blaming entitled consumers.

Americans have been taught to conflate their needs with wants, so whoever takes their wants away is a bad person.

If you're sitting around waiting for the people at top to enact change, you're part of the problem. We can all do something about it, and it usually starts in our wallets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Workers are consumers, you're blaming the working class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no. I can tell you're purposefully ignoring what I am saying because it's not what you want to hear.

For the record before I block you, I am referring to those who are living above their means because accepting a cheaper way of life "isn't good enough for them."

It's not about needs. It's about wants. That's what you misunderstand when you say "many Americans need 2 jobs just to survive."

It's straight up not true.

Gonna ignore you now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's absolutely true, though, and rather than recognizing that the problem is systemic, you blame behavior of individuals. I know the point you're making, I just think it's a bad point.