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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. —Noam Chomsky

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, sure, but does that mean people get to express themselves everywhere all the time?

I go to work and there’s always a couple fuckers who bring up their hateful opinions in a “I’m not racist but,” way.

It affects my productivity when I have to hear that bullshit all day while trying to get them to stop in a diplomatic way.

I can’t say it so directly, but it’s not censorship to say “shut up and let me work”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If they’re disturbing you from working, that’s an issue independent from the message they’re expressing, so freedom of expression does not apply.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok, now I argue that the constant bombardment of misinformation and hate speech we face online and through the media clearly affects people’s ability to live their lives, and is no different than the guy talking my ear off at work.

I’m not saying they can’t express themselves. I’m just saying that we don’t have to listen, but with the current state of things we’re being forced to listen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is forcing you to read anyone’s comments on Facebook.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

No, but we're on the receiving end of the consequences of those comments.

When they come for you because they're acting on some shit that Zuckerberg's algorithm amplified, your shallow moralizing won't make any difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

By this logic they should ban all religious speech from every platform

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It’s not just comments and I’m not talking just about me.

You and I and Mel Brooks all know that the common person is a moron.

Algorithms push misinformation. Bots push information. Are we limiting free speech by saying “you can’t use algorithms and bots to spread lies”?

Does lying count as free speech?