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I need to say that I adore how you have relentlessly asserted that it only counts as education if you’re told once and then never again, because putting a label on the bottle can’t possibly be a form of education.
I love you I have relentlessly asserted that the mechanism it's working through couldn't possibly be accurately described as nagging.
Oh what scholars everyone is reading a cigarette label and finding out that cigarettes can give you cancer :O! How much better they understand that cigarettes do, in, fact, give, you, cancer! Suddenly knowing that brand new fact changes everything about their decision making! How better informed are they huh?
You’re making an (asinine) assertion here that people aren’t changing their minds about smoking based on the warning labels, when even the barest little bit of effort on your part would turn up a wealth of studies demonstrating that the cigarette warnings have been very successful at getting people to quit.
Like, any effort at all. Just a little bit.
As an aside:
Thanks, I guess, but let’s try to stay on topic.
No, I'm extremely explicitly not. I'm saying that the mechanism behind that decision is not informing or education, but nagging.
See, there’s that “it’s not education” thing again.
Fun fact: repetition is the key to internalizing information. This is like grade-school level stuff here. I bet when the teacher told you that you had to practice the alphabet more than once you threw a fit about them nagging you when you just wanted “education”.
Repetition is also the key to propaganda and advertising effectiveness, it's the reason why you know exactly what the quicker picker up is and probably hate that you do right now.
You're literally using the word "education" in the way that China uses it to describe their re-"education" camps for the Uighurs.
Try and grow the fuck up and learn how to have a nuanced discussion rather than simplifying everything down to good and bad and black and white.
One of us needs to do some growing up for sure; I suspect it’s the one saying that we can’t warn people about cancer because it’s the same as Chinese propaganda; that one-two punch of racism and non sequitur.
Keep being awesome man.
Me: points out that propaganda, nagging, and advertising worth through the mechanism of bombarding people with the same message over and over, and is not what we consider education, but is in fact similar to "education camps" which are explicitly distinguished from actual education institutions, since they don't work through informing people and letting them make their own choice.
You: you're racist and don't make sense!
.... ok there bud.
Thanks for doubling down on my above points to help clarify them. I appreciate you.
Whoosh. Thanks for making it clear that you didn't actually come on a discussion forum to discuss anything, just to hear yourself talk.
lol. We could probably solve cancer for good if the cure were instances of you deflecting your lack of a cogent argument by claiming that the other person “isn’t here for a discussion”.
Lmao.
Just because you can't understand, apparently basic nuance, like the difference between education and education camps, it doesn't mean that it's not understandable.