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Whatsapp now refuses to work if your phone js rooted or you don't have Gapps.
And I refuse to use WhatsApp, screw Facebook.
Why would you use whatsapp? If you'e going to all this trouble to get Zuck and the Googleplex out of your phone, why go right back to them?
Humans are social creatures, and sometimes the other creatures are idiots
It better than RCS/SMS and Signal isn’t normie compatible
normie compatible. hah.
But if you want to talk to people who don't have whatsapp you still have to use SMS or something else, i don't get why people think these apps are somehow magically better
The number of people whose phone number I know and don’t use WhatsApp is pretty close to zero.
But I’m not in the US so YMMV.
i mean i'm not in the US either, i have never heard of anyone using whatsapp here in sweden. the standard is sms and some people use facebook messenger or apple imessage, both of which have sms fallback which is why anyone uses them at all.
the idea of the standard being something that has no sms fallback is absolutely absurd to me
Here in Finland WhatsApp is the default, kids get it on their phone the second they get one. Even my 85yo grandma uses it.
I haven’t received a single SMS that wasn’t from an automated system in a good decade or so.
It works for me in Graphene without google play services running
How long have you been logged in? Now it pretends to send an SMS code, but I never received one.
Do you use a VPN?
You was right. I tried it without a VPN and successfully logged in. Fuck tech companies that don't give a reason why they ban users.
For around a year.
It may also be that your phone number is flagged as dubious if you have used it many times to log in, to avoid people using online temporary numbers.
I don't think so. I tried different numbers from different countries, even brand new SIM cards. Viber and Telegram also behave this way.
But shouldn't the sms arrive regardless of the phone being rooted or not?
They just don't send SMS, but they act as if they did.
That's weird, it worked for me a while ago on a rooted Lineage phone. I sms verified both Telegram and WhatsApp
My phone's rooted and WhatsApp works fine, with it added to my MagiskHide list.
I do have gapps though, so maybe that's it.
Technically you can set up a bridge so you can use it through a normal xmpp or matrix client. It's a giant pain to set it up though.