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How would you guarantee my safety without a state? What would stop some group of people who decided to rape and pillage from doing so?
Let me save you some time :)
There are never actual well-thought-out answers, just a chain of poorly constructed what-ifs
The answers always put them in control without any guardrails and just require everyone to assume they're good-hearted people with good intentions.
Exactly. And then when you question them further, you often find out that they would not be one of those good-hearted people who would pay them to solve the problem.
Who is stopping our oligarchs and their CEO lapdogs from doing this now?
Elites in fact rape poor people's children... Healthcare CEO pillage family's bank accounts if one of them has health issues?
You're evading the question. Please answer it.
They're not.
Who is stopping them now? Because if you say "the police", you're going to have to cite some sources. They not only don't stop anyone from being raped, they routinely side with the rapists, or even employ them directly.
Again, take a look at Haiti right now or Somalia 20 years ago if you think there is a difference in safety between living in a state and living in a place with no state.
And when you say "the police," the police in which country? Or are you suggesting there are no police in any state on this planet that stop gangs from running rampant through towns?
nobody said this.. only you are saying this here.
Sorry, you've already shown you are not here in good faith.
There is no safety for the working class right now. Your above comment implies that there is. If poor people can't have safety, then the rich don't get it either. You keep shilling statist bullshit. We discussed this already.
Now answer my question...
Nope. You're still evading. What I am talking about is happening right now in Haiti. There is no state. Gangs are taking over towns. People are getting raped and murdered in their homes. And this is the paradise you want.
So you position is either we have the current regime or we get Haiti style situation?
There is no possible scenario where working people get a better life?
You do understand that government is just a tool?
This tool is currently being used against working people by the ruling class.
Then we have people like you spending day in, day out defending this clown shit using some generic propaganda tactics, fear here specifically.
Nobody advocating a stateless solution... specific comment:
That's what you do on the daily here lol
You then proceed to imply that original comment was promoting some sort of anarchy to which you respond with leading questions to highlight how dangerous this line of thinking is. Strawman?
Interesting how you only quoted part of what you wrote.
Here it is in context where you are suggesting that states are a scam and those that support them are destroying the planet:
You also literally used "statist" as an insult.
You are clearly not discussing this in good faith, so I think I'm done here.
Does the state guarantee you that? What's your net worth?
See my comments to others about Haiti and Somalia. I will enjoy you also evading the uncomfortable truth of what happens when there is no state.
Also, not that it's any of your business, but my net worth is in the negative ten thousand dollar range. What about yours, since we're sharing? Will you even tell me?