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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because the alternative is to become a pessimistic doomer and tune out pretending it's all hopeless?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not tuning out. Occasionally I wish I could, but that doesn't align with my core values. Doomers aren't the ones that tune out, people that primarily consume "reality" TV, aren't "political, teehee," couldn't point to the middle east on a map with a gun to their head, and are habitually bubbly and optimistic about any topic despite living in this world are the ones tuned out living in blissful willful ignorance.

You have to be paying attention to have hope beaten out of you in the first place. You may not like doomers, but they are burdened with knowledge, aka well informed. That's why they bother the ignorant, they bum them out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

people that primarily consume “reality” TV, aren’t “political, teehee,” couldn’t point to the middle east on a map with a gun to their head, and are habitually bubbly and optimistic about any topic despite living in this world are the ones tuned out living in blissful willful ignorance.

They're not hopeful about climate change, they're ignorant of it. That's not the same thing.

Doomers aren' t burdened with knowledge, doomers are a burden on everyone else with knowledge who knows that this could be fixed if people acted.

There is literally zero benefit to climate doomerism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If more than just Greta starts doing the right thing and humanity starts fighting for change in tangible ways, ways that WOULD HAVE TO LEAD TO DIMINISHED HUMAN QUALITY OF LIFE by necessity to to have any decent future for humans, I will join them in destroying the industrial world so we may find equilibrium with nature again. I'm more than willing to put myself into the necessary billions must starve and our species must return to nature lottery if you are.

Until then, have fun following the promise of the capitalist's latest solution to themselves. What is It this week? ~~Clean coal hydrogen corn based ethynol plant a tree offsets climate pledges AI~~ oh yeah planetary scale carbon scrubbers. They'll totes work, I mean just look at how much the capitalist's will profit from them. Expensive=good=hope. We'll start to see results sometime... after the world government's checks have cleared of course. Just gotta hope!

I do believe in planetary scale carbon scrubbers! I do! I do!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"I would do something, but instead I'll do nothing and complain"

Okay, great contribution.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, we really did a lot for the climate today with this discourse.