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TIL that malnutrition isn't an issue in North Korea (ponder.cat)

submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/meanwhileongrad

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This is a weird one. Bear with me. From [email protected]:

So I said to myself, "that's a little bit weird. The US one going up, I can actually believe, but the North Korea one being lower is definitely wrong."

I think Our World In Data is just being shoddy, as they often do.

https://www.wfp.org/countries/democratic-peoples-republic-korea

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269924/countries-most-affected-by-hunger-in-the-world-according-to-world-hunger-index/

The thing I found funny, and why I'm posting here, comes from observing why it was that they started their graph at 2003 and exactly at 2003.

I feel like you could use this as a slide in a little seminar in "how to curate your data until it matches your conclusion, instead of the other way around."

And also, I don't think the hunger rate suddenly dropped from epic to 0 exactly in 2003, I think more likely Our World in Data is just a little bit shoddy about their data.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone told me a few days ago that Israel was striking Syria with nuclear weaponry, and the only reason I didn't know about it was that I only consumed Western news sources.

They sent me an article that proved it! And a video of the explosion. Okay. I stopped talking with them shortly after that, after they said "Thank you for taking the bait. We’ve now come full circle," without explaining what they meant by that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Israel is already doing so much fucked up shit that there's no reason to make shit up to make them look bad. They're blowing up hospitals and schools, and shooting small children in the head. There's no need to invent lies about nuclear weapons being used.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

there's no reason to make shit up to make them look bad

There always is. Some people just enjoy stirring up more drama. Some get money out of that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Tearing down the very idea of objective truth, switching out sources and debate for a process based on ever-shifting chaos, yelling, and loyalty to a particular narrative above all else, is it own highly valued goal.