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‘Terrifying’: Israelis Recall ‘Deafening Explosion’ From Houthi Missile Strike on Tel Aviv
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Every side is the asshole in that regional conflict - it's like as if the cultivated thought, that there are opposing groups which don't share compatible ideas, is the issue. And the civilian population suffers.
Humans are stupid. (Or heinous, depending on the actors motivations.)
These conflicts would not exist if Europeans didn't send Jews to the middle east to make it "their problem."
These conflicts wouldn't exist if Zionists (religious nationalists) left their stolen land. There's plenty of room in the United States for them.
See? There it is. The cultivated thought of groups with insurmountable differences - in this case a theological belief, it could as well be the color of the skin or some way of life. The forming of arbitrary groups, sides, us and them. It's just an arbitrary classification, there is no difference between jews or muslims that hinders them to live next to each other.
(It's more complicated than that yes. There are always shades of grey.)
Zionism is mainly based on ethnicity and only uses religious motives as far as it seems beneficial, while blatantly ignoring other religious motives of Judaism. There is a lot of devoted religious Jews that strongly oppose the Zionist project as it contradicts the faith.
That's like saying that the ant is exactly as culpable as the kid burning it with a magnifying glass.
You don't have to condone any terrorist attacks to recognize the obvious fact that Israeli oppression and military aggression are the main culprits. Especially given the fact that they're literally the only party with the power to end it one way or the other.
I don't see the connection between your ant/boy example and the series of wars and conflicts between Israel and the surrounding nations and organisations (Egypt, Palestine, Hamas, Lebanon, hesbollah, Iran, Jordan) let's say since 1948. Would you elaborate on that?
I'm not very deep in the conflict, so please correct me. To me it looks like Israel is surrounded by states and organizations whose aim is to get rid of Israel because they are not Arab - hence Israel's strong and expensive military. Israel on the other side is rigid on the status of the occupied palestinian territories and threatens to destroy everybody who dares to attack them. And they did that after the attacks in 2023, including all the war crimes they committed.
No party did nearly enough to defuse the situation before 2023. And the result is another round of human suffering and more hate and anger. That's why I said: everyone is the asshole here.
It would seem that you have not even done some preliminary research on the subject.
Trying to have a discussion with someone who has very little knowledge of this issue is not an easy task, nor is simplifying it.
It is a long and complex history, and whoever you talk to is going to have different answers about how long it is, what happened, and why it happened.
While nuance and much important additional information is lost in Wikipedia articles, they are a very useful resource for understanding the main points, and they also tend to be one of the least biased sources. If you are genuinely interested in learning more, this is a good place to start:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
If you actually do read through most of that page, I will be very surprised if your take away is still "everyone is the asshole here."