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Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fun fact: if you're not actively against neofascists, you are with them, and everything you say to justify sitting at their table should and will be considered insincere vaporing. It really blows that other people are going to suffer when you get what's coming to you. I feel bad for them. I better not hear so much as a sigh out of you, since you're getting what you wanted, what you knew would happen, and what you chose.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hear Hear! Thank you for taking the time to voice the opinion of many. We should never relent and keep shining a light on these idiots and their moronic reasoning. They chose to not vote, vote jill stein or vote trump (all the same thing) and then want to reason about it? Justify it? They chose, they chose clearly and they knew what they did. Never let these fascist wannabees off the hook.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We should never relent and keep shining a light on these idiots and their moronic reasoning.

They are a significant portion of the dem vote. So if you follow your plan you never win an election again.

Only uniting behind a candidate who is NOT a right wing fellating, corporatist sellout, genocidal peice of shit do the dems have any chance at all of any future. It might even be too late already though.

This is true now and was true before this last election too. Now you have proof staring you in the face.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you are so concerned with 3rd party voters, you should be working tirelessly to replace First past the post voting in your state.

That way, people could vote how they want and still have their vote count against those they don't want in office.

Or maybe you just enjoy telling others how to vote. So which is it, are you working to replace FPTP voting or are you against democracy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I do not seek or want to tell others how to vote. I just look at the results and the people abstaining or voting trump or voting 3rd party should accept what they did: elect donald trump.

Just admit it, these people (possibly you as well?) fucked america over and the consequences will be dire. But accepting responsibility and acknowledging these people know what they did seems out of the question for some reason. It seems they rather would argue someone else did this, just as you seem to do. It's always someone else who 'blocks' you in doing the right thing. Now there are scores of people left in uncertainty and quite possibly face a horrendous time while the fascist is in office.

My message to people who made this choice: don't mope and moan, accept what you did and live with the outcome of your choices and what they will do to part of society who will not be able to defend themselves.

Imagine that, helping elect that fascist and then complain you had no other choice so hey, fuck all the vulnerable people who will suffer because of it, not my problem.

And now wanting to hide under the umbrella of righteousness because 'you had to make a stand', also hating that people point out that what you did was morally questionable. It has to mess with your head I imagine and what better defense is there then attack and blame others?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All of this turns to dust when you understand that the democrats and republicans are two arms of the same neofascist party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh please. That will be enough with the histrionics, go play outside.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So the neofascists only exist on the other team, then, and anyone who disagrees is being hysterical?

And everyone who doesn't actively oppose the neofascists is part of it. Except if they're on your team and actively adopt the neofascists's narratives, among other things that turn away voters, demonstrating that allowing the neofascists's own narrative to exist uncontested at the national level is more important to them than winning on the actual alternatives that exist to the neofascists's narrative.

Then you should ignore them turning you away as a voter and abandoning the supposed principles that make them not neofascist and vote for them anyways, because the other guy did it worse and "you can't vote for anyone not evil so it isn't on the ballot and don't you dare mention that third parties exist on the ballot because then the evil party will win"

Hm. Understood.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It must be tough to look in the mirror for ya. We won't feel sorry holding it up in front of you no matter what insults you throw my blue conservative "ally".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Making shit up with conviction doesn't make it true, which I know is probably a hard sell considering it's the basis of your performative imitation of sincere belief. You can stop following me around and replying to everything I say now. I'll dismiss you if that helps.