this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2024
1222 points (97.8% liked)
memes
10705 readers
2558 users here now
Community rules
1. Be civil
No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour
2. No politics
This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [email protected]
3. No recent reposts
Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month
4. No bots
No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins
5. No Spam/Ads
No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.
Sister communities
- [email protected] : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts
- [email protected] : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.
- [email protected] : Linux themed memes
- [email protected] : for those who love comic stories.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Everybody has their price.
I'd make way more money in defense. I've actively avoided it in my career. I spent one summer at LM as an intern. Never went back.
That's actually just something people who sell out their morals say to make themselves feel better. There are absolutely people who don't have a price. It's not particularly many and society and those in power are generally able to deal with them in other ways, but there are in fact people who stick to their lines in regards to money.
It's not about what they could give you, it's about what they could take away.
https://lemm.ee/comment/17037733
No they don’t.
I could earn double my low salary, as a software developer, working for say a gambling company, but I’d rather make less and not propagate misery from predatory industries.
Bang on. Right there with you.
I'm working on becoming a game developer but I live in a place chock full of casinos, so looking up "games company" on a map is very disappointing here.
They can sure pay well sometimes, though. The temptation is real. But I really couldn't have any sort of passion for even sweeping their floors, much less constructing flashier products that merely serve to more-efficiently short circuit people's rational thinking into emptying their wallets.
I think the loud secret is that these "games" thrive on desperation en masse, rather than the comparatively few wealthy and "responsible gamblers."
I don't judge the plenty of good folks who make a living doing it because they need to make a living, but I'd rather struggle more towards something I can believe in that doesn't compromise my soul or contribute to ruining anybody's life.
Now if only high moral standards could pay the bills...
Oh well, I'll just keep remembering Matthew 6:26 :)
https://lemm.ee/comment/17037733
Some of us don't have our souls up for sale and never will.
What if the corpos threaten to unalive your family?
You're an edgelord? That's a pre-existing condition.
Do you think corpos wouldn't unalive people to increase their profits?
This is Lemmy, you can say "kill" here
I assumed they were trying to 1984 because...edgelord
Looking at how badly I am getting down voted, I am afraid to say anything too controversial. I have probably been reported several times for being correct.
Correct about what? I said I'd never sell my soul. I'd never put myself in a position to be targeted in the first place.
Oh, how would you do that? I would also like to be not targeted.
Try not working for Lockheed Martin? That's a good first step.
Done, what's next?
That's not what you said
You said a company would threaten someone's family to force them to work for that company. I am not aware of any time in recent history that a company has done this.
Obviously a large corporation would kill people and they do.
Do you need specific threats or will just the threat of death due exposure and or starving death because you can't pay for food or shelter?
For your statements to make sense, it need to driven by a specific actor not the system as a whole. Ie, yes, a specific threat.
Hmm, I haven't found any historical examples of specific threats against families. I am a bit surprised, if they are willing to kill workers, why not also threaten their families?
Also my statement was corpos in general. So it was a systemic argument.
I don't know, only you can know your own integrity. Are some people homeless or hungry or both because there are things they won't do for money though? Yes, of course.
So you would be ok with your family starving because you won't work for military corporation? If true I admire your dedication, but I couldn't do go through with it.
Bullshit. I prefer being able to sleep at night over being rich.
It's not about what they could give you, it's about what they could take away.
https://lemm.ee/comment/17037733
Are the corpo assassins in the room right now?
I think you're trolling me because you don't have a good counter argument and you are mad.
I'm not mad, I however think you are concocting absurd hypotheticals to make yourself feel better for some reason.
I feel great right now. But I am concerned I may have to make a choice between providing for my family or making excellent software for lockheed martin at some time in the future. My price is my family's well being and that isn't really a secret.
Okay? Good for you, you are a somewhat less principled person than some others. Not sure what you're arguing about.
I'm not arguing with you yet, because the only thing you have done is ask me a troll question. All I know is that you don't like what I have said, but you are too much of a coward to state your own position.
I thought I stated my opinion pretty clearly. I can do it again for you. It is disingenuous to say that everyone has a price, that's just something people say to make themselves feel better about benefiting from compromising their morals. Everyone needs to look at themselves and their principles and make a decision based on their beliefs and their situation. But saying "if I didn't someone else would, anyone would do the same, everyone has a price etc..." is a cop-out.
So would it be better to say that most people have a price?
Sure? But kind of a weird interjection to make at someone saying that they don't.
Yeah, I can see that. I sometimes think people don't have a sufficient imagination when it comes to what the cost could be, or they don't think some of the horrible stuff could be possible. So I was giving some push back.
I think we need to think about these things because I think we are rapidly heading to a darker place.
I don't think we can rely on there being a large amount of people like you to take all the hits. I think we need to find a way to share the work amongst everyone to get to a better place. So I think having the expectation that everyone works against their most deeply held interests like family is one that will make us weaker as a whole.
Sure, my price is making enough money on my first day there to solve world hunger.