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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Would Bavarian be classified as “low German”? IIRC, the “low” refers to it coming from lowland regions, of which Bavaria is not one.

[–] brotundspiele 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Bavarian is definitely not low German, it's in fact "Upper German" which is a group of dialects of "High German". People tend to confuse "High German" with "Standard German" but Standard German is the Language that's taught in school while High German is a huge family of dialects.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

A lot of people seem to get their ideas of what “low” and “high” mean about a language from fantasy novels, and assume that High ~~Elven~~ German would be an ultra-formal, long-windedly prescriptivist variant with extra grammatical cases for encoding degrees of polite deference, whereas Low German would be a guttural argot originally spoken by mercenaries, prostitutes and thieves, and used these days mostly to buy bubatz and döner kebabs.

[–] Saledovil 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, what is the correct meaning of "low" and "high"?

[–] brotundspiele 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Low German is/was spoken in the northern lowlands near the sea, High German is/was spoken in the more mountainous regions in the south. This map shows quite well where the two languages are spoken, even though I think it's more a coincidence than causation that the language border matches the topological border.

Nowadays things have changed of cause, as Standard German is spoken in all of Germany, at least in official contexts. But in colloquial conversations and especially in the rural areas the difference persists.

[–] Saledovil 3 points 2 months ago

Ah, so low and high refer to geography.

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