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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree. An open discussion should be as complete as possible and ideally consider all relevant aspects.

From my perspective, the time perspective in context of nuclear waste is really significant. Until we find a clean solution to fully recycle or dispose nuclear waste, there are almost infinite maintenance efforts even ignoring the danger of the waste itself.

If we want to monitor the potential radioactive pollution around where the waste is stored, it means roads, elevators, protective doors, sensors, measuring systems, protective gear etc. have to be constantly maintained and renewed. We must upkeep the monitoring for 1 million years until the waste is no longer dangerous.

How long is the lifetime of this equipment? Even if we assume an unrealistic lifetime of 100 years, it means we have to renovate all storage facilities 10000 times. 10000 new elevators, 10000 new roads etc.

1 million years is just a completely insane period of time and we have no clue if we really ever find a safe way to deal with this stuff. So people in the future will have to do all this maintenance even if hunanity stopped using nuclear power tens of thousands of years ago.

And that's just the pollution directly caused by maintenance. If there's an accident while installing a new elevator and radioactive material is released, we have way bigger issues.

[โ€“] stormdelay 3 points 3 days ago

Radioactive waste is obviously dangerous (though to varying degrees, most of it, by volume, is very weakly contaminated if at all), but so are all the chemical wastes from processing ores etc, and for some reason we don't talk about keeping these secured for as long as they're dangerous (and unlike radioactive waste, they don't necessarily become less dangerous over time). And the volume of chemical waste is way higher.