this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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See, this one is an edge case.
While the instance's policies are absurd, and I have no idea why they think it's sustainable; but the policies are clearly listed and described, so I can't say it's power tripping to enforce those policies.
It's one of those things like beehaw being extra insular. It's on the dumb side to use a federated base like lemmy if you want to exclude the possibility of outsiders doing things you don't like when your instance's posts federate. Like, don't federate at all, or use different base, something.
But is it power tripping? To me, power tripping is about overreach. Like being an admin and interfering in C/'s workings without warning per communication. Or for mods, making decisions that aren't covered by existing rules for the C.
So, in this case, it's less power tripping and more just a shitty instance doing shitty things, if you see the distinction I'm making.
I don't think we can compare this situation to Beehaw, since Beehaw disables downvotes and they also don't follow people around on external instances to ban them. This is very much a different situation than Beehaw being Beehaw. It's not exactly power-tripping but it's bordering on the realm of Power tripping.
Are you saying their policies prohibit anybody from downvoting the admin's opinions? If so, I don't see how that's not power tripping no matter how you frame it
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean.
The policies specify that they intend to be proactive about down vote "brigading".
They aren't saying you can't down vote reasonably, just that they apply a threshold beyond which, you get banned preemptively.
It isn't like "power tripping" has a precise definition that's universal, so it comes down to individual usages of the term. For me, it's like I already explained. That's my criteria, what's yours?
The admin was downvoted 3 times, across one discussion. In a community not on their server, and not their post. Calling that 'brigading' is ridiculous. From other comments in this post, it's happened to others too. Somebody mentioned getting banned for 5 downvotes spread across several weeks. It sounds like any criticism of the admin would merit a ban. Regardless of where your individual borders lie for defining power tripping, I don't see how this would fail to qualify.
I mean, great, you can rant about it if you want. Feel free, it doesn't hurt anything.
I already gave my criteria in the first comment. Feel free to use your own in making a top level comment too. Heck, make a post about, it if you like.
But, I gotta say, that if you're just looking to argue about it, you're wasting your time. I gave my opinion, stated the grounds for that opinion, and see no reason to change it to satisfy some internet rando that can't be bothered to answer a direct and clear question.