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2008 is about 17 years after the collapse of the USSR. Within that time, Russia experienced an economic crisis with the push for a "free market" and actually had lower life expectancy than during the USSR. Unless you want to argue that Russia is just inherently a warmongering country, surely something could've been done to prevent this later aggression. Similar to trump, putin getting elected is a symptom of a broken system.
Oh sorry, they needed time to build up. Fuck em, and fuck their genocidal, warring regime.
Your assumption is that it's always been a genocidal, warring regime, and that it's just been building up the entire time. I disagree with that defeatist attitude. If Germany can be de-nazified and Japan can transform from the ruthlessness displayed during and before world war 2, then surely something similar could be done with Russia. If you think this is impossible, then what solution do you propose?
Both Germany and Japan were defeated in war (that they themselves started) and occupied by foreign forces. Their "denazification" was enforced by occupiers. You are arguing against your own points (not that you have any, except "war is bad and America is to blame for Russia's actions").
I'm not sure I saw this point being made, although I agree that not much actionable ideas were proposed
Oh yeah, Russia hasn't ever been genocidal, not since its tsarist days huh.
The solution I propose is to arm ourselves so that Russia doesn't think about attacking anyone ever again. And neither does China and neither does Iran or any other asshole that wants war.
Both Germany and Japan were defeated in a hot war, as opposed to a cold war, so your point about occupation is irrelevant in the case of Russia. Germany and Japan also received generous economic benefits, a far more relevant point that you ignored for whatever reason. Are you trying to argue that Russia was a genocidal warring regime right when the USSR collapsed? I guess we should just nuke them out of existence because you seem to think it's in their genes or something.
Bruh read up on history and stop gaslighting people.
I didn't say that.
The US is the most armed, most advanced military in the history of humanity. Somehow this hasn't achieved peace in the world.
We live in unprecedented peaceful times compared to any other age in history. You don't achieve peace by disarming yourself and hoping your aggressive neighbor magically flips on the decades of genocidal intent and imperialism. I won't be replying to you further, I hate going in circles about something that has shown to be true time and time again.
That depends on where you are in the world. For the west, absolutely, since they've mastered the art of proxy wars. The same is not true of the global south for whom these wars aren't by proxy.
Sure, but you also don't achieve peace by provoking and undermining others through proxies and economic exploitation.
Thanks for sparing me an argument with someone who already seems set in their ways and is unwilling to listen to what others are saying.