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Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what's happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 days ago (4 children)

all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we're stupid as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Our schools have been under attack by the usual shitheads ever since we won to get them integrated.

Smart comfortable people don't obey. Uneducated, poor people with two jobs and three kids don't have any energy left over to crack a book and be disruptive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

So you're saying we should blame the rich and oligarchs. Agreed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Politicians do not benefit from an educated populace.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Decades of republicans cutting education and lying will do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

You mean that?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

And I swear you guys are going to take us down with you (as a Canadian). The Trump "jokes" about annexing Canada are really starting to get to me.

So much for being good trading partners and friendly neighbours I guess

Edit: this isn't really directed at you in particular, it's just that as Canadians we didn't even get a say in this but somehow you voted overwhelmingly for him again and now he's threatening to invade us before he even takes office. I'm fucking tired man (and a little drunk)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Tell me about it. I can feel the rumblings of something awful coming for Canada. All because if this bullshit down south. Our rights are being threatened because of reactionary politics. Half the people I work with can't seperate Canadian politics from American. They think it's all the same.

Drives me up the wall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We did not vote overwhelmingly for him. He barely won.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair, but he did win the popular vote which I really wasn't expecting. I realise very little US Lemmy users are happy about it either, but the Canada rhetoric Trump is spouting is still freaking me out.

[–] skulblaka 3 points 2 days ago

he did win the popular vote

Frankly I also don't believe that for half a second either. We had over a full year's worth of "I am going to cheat in this election." 'He's going to cheat and we're gonna help him!' "Mike Johnson and I, we have a nice secret surprise, it's a secret, can't tell you anything, but it's going to guarantee I win the election." 'Hi, my name is Mike Johnson and I intend to help Trump cheat the election.' "If Kamala wins the election is rigged no matter what happens. We've rigged it in our favor so obviously if we lose the Democrats have rigged the election."

And then, lo and behold, he wins, by an ass-hair percentage of a degree in exactly the states he needed to in order to take the presidency.

Unless I'm the one counting those ballots by hand I don't believe a fucking word of it. All trust in all branches of government has evaporated. But what can we do now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

We elected TFG... twice. Humanity is doomed

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What’s this “we?” I take zero responsibility for the election of that idiot. I tried as hard as I could to get everyone I know to not vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eh. It's "we" whether you like it or not, unfortunately.

Do we really differentiate between the good and bad Germans in Nazi Germany? Not really. History paints with broad strokes. In the future we're all going to look like the bad guys, whether we fought back or not. It's a shameful time to be an American.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What? There are quite a few Germans who rebelled against against the Nazis and are recognized for it.

[–] Rekorse 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And people think that most Germans rebelled? You are missing the point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody said "most Germans". They said "all", which is not only untrue, it's a malignment of those who did resist and serves to discourage future resistance, which is entirely unhelpful. If that's truely where the US is headed, the last thing people need to hear is, "Everyone will think you're a piece of shit no matter what you do."

[–] Rekorse 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thinking in absolutes is a childish thing to begin with, it has nothing to do with maligning the people who resisted.

Of course there will be varying accounts for those involved, but as a whole, Americans shoulder the responsibility of their country just the same as Germans shouldered theirs. I wouldnt hold it against someone who felt involved or responsible, and deciding at some point to rebel.

But that doesnt mean they still weren't part of something awful for some period of time. Just like Americans are part of something awful right now, and for quite a long time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not the one "thinking in absolutes". The user you're defending literally said it doesn't matter what American's do - everyone will be considered the same.

In the future we’re all going to look like the bad guys, whether we fought back or not.

Actual quote from them. But I'm the one you're calling a child. Buzz off.

[–] Rekorse 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I said anyone talking in absolutes is a child. I get that you didnt do that, and so wasnt calling you a child.

The point I'm making is, they are right that all Americans share a part in what the country does to people around the world, even if they oppose it. Its not a bad thing to be against something you are or were apart of though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

"Absolutism is childish"

Defends and supports absolutism

Ok, bud.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

"The Former Guy", refers to Trump.