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Some people are saying these are either UFOs or a foreign country. I believe that these HAVE to be domestic. Look -- if China/Russia/etc can overfly our most sensitive military bases and our Air Force, etc. doesn't respond, the USA has gotten PUNKED. What is actually happening is you are seeing some sanctioned activity either by a commercial contractor of the Federal government, or you are seeing some secret Air Force tech. The Army, etc will just deny, deny, deny, because they know in a couple of days this will fall out of the news cycle.

I'd be curious to hear people's theories to see if I'm alone in my line of thinking or not.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

He also noted that the drones are flying above critical infrastructure such as water reservoirs, electric transmission lines, train stations, police departments and military installations.

I’ll just add some detail to this as a resident of NJ; we’re the most densely populated state in the nation. I would say it would be difficult for anything to fly in our airspace without being in close proximity to any of these things.

Even in the more rural south of the state, you have a massive military base, McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst taking up a huge area

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, to think the Air Force / Army etc would tolerate such a blatant violation of their airspace with NO RESPONSE is crazy. It's not like they have to fly 5000 miles like you said. They are literally right there. If America was really this powerless against drones in our airspace, then Iran, etc. would be dropping grenades on our power stations in 2 seconds. We'd be totally owned. This is VERY CLEARLY either the government themselves, or something done with the government's agreement.

Another point -- if these drones are so secret and spooky, why are many of them flying with FAA compliant safety lights? Iran / aliens worried about mid-air collisions? Awfully nice of them!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the bright lights is why I also think this is some skunkworks testing that Uncle Sam would rather not disclose rather than an adversary. That said, if that was the case why don’t they pull out something akin to the tried and true “just weather balloons” excuse?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That said, if that was the case why don’t they pull out something akin to the tried and true “just weather balloons” excuse?

Easy, because government excuses need a veneer of belivability. Clearly, weather balloons don't move like these objects (who, as far as I am aware, EVERYONE is calling drones), so that can't be the excuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

We had a drone scare in a town near where I live. It was dropping a "mysterious substance" on cars and houses. Turns out it was just a heron pooping on things.

Now, there are photos of the NJ drone, so I'm more inclined to believe this is actually a drone, but even still, consumer drones are getting better and cheaper. This could easily just be a teenager having fun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I agree that’s not the most plausible. I just mentioned that as it’s an excuse they’ve used previously. I’d expect something more like “light pollution surveying” or “generic scientific study”.

I can’t imagine you’d do an operation like this over one of the busiest parts of the country without a pre-prepared cover story that doesn’t make the government look incompetent. They usually hate looking incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“light pollution surveying” or “generic scientific study”.

The problem with those excuses is they'd have to 'own' the drones, and clearly, they want to avoid that at this point. They are just trying to make it very boring until these drones drop out of the news cycle and America's mad about something else for a week or two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah I guess if they’re just short term testing something they can just wait for them to “go away” and then people will move on