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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (19 children)

I'm in love with the Citroen Ami

I mean just look at this little guy. If I had ovaries, they'd be popping right now.

[–] azertyfun 6 points 2 months ago (15 children)

They're cute but very niche. They're very expensive for what they are, those weird plastic folding windows are not fully waterproof, and the ami generally inferior to a scooter in every way except safety kinda. It's not like it can carry more than a large grocery bag anyway.

Owning that car really tells a complete story: "I am a 16/17 yo suburbanite so I can't get my license yet, daddy/mommy is tired of driving me to school, my wealthy parents won't let me ride a moped because it's too dangerous, and riding a bicycle or the bus isn't even an option for someone of my social standing".

Unsurprisingly, it's not been selling particularly well. Which is a good thing, because what cities need is more micromobility solutions not cars cosplaying as micromobility.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Micromobility will never be a solution for places where it rains a lot or where it gets cold often. People need an enclosed cabin like this.

[–] azertyfun 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Uh, yeah, no. Copenhagen and Stockholm are cycling capitals. SE Asia literally gets a monsoon and everyone still rides a motorcycle.

"It's wet/cold outside" is nothing more than a paltry excuse. There's a whole NJB video on the subject if you want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or it more like "you gotta do what you gotta do." If it's all that's accessible, then it's really not the virtue you might think it is.

[–] azertyfun 1 points 2 months ago

... What exactly do you think the economic situation is in Copenhagen or Stockholm?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sweden and Denmark are 47th and 44th in the number of cars per capita. They aren't even in the lower 2/3 of countries. Out of the lowest half of countries on the list, the only one where it regularly gets cold is Greenland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_motor_vehicles_per_capita

[–] azertyfun 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Entirely orthogonal to the discussion. These countries are wealthy and do have lots of suburban and rural areas where families are likely to have one or multiple cars.

That doesn't in any way contradict the fact that many people in Copenhagen and Stockholm cycle daily, regardless of the season. And in case you haven't been: there's regularly rain and/or snow.

I don't understand where this idea comes from that spending 15 minutes outside when it's barely freezing is some kind of superhuman feat. Like, bruh, it's chilly, put on a coat and get over it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That might work fine for small, densely packed European cities but it won't work in most of the US. I live in Chicago and can drive by car for 45 minutes and still be in the city. It would take me at least 30-40 minutes to bike to work depending on the wind. When it's -20F outside, that is just not happening.

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