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At least celebrities are just doing their job usually. You don't become a billionaire without ruining a lot of lives along the way
The obsession with either is weird but only one of them is inherently evil
Right until said celebrity goes on talk shows spewing toxic shit for their fan base to gobble up.
Being obsessed with celebrities, or ANYONE is not a good thing. It opens you up to manipulation which we can see how celebrities take advantage of.
Young people today are focused on their celebrities, instead of focusing on themselves. It’s not a good thing because these young people are being shaped by the bad behaviors of celebrities.
We need to stop giving these toxic assholes a platform.
And?
That person just has shitty ideas. They're still not responsible for fucking over many people's lives like billionaires do
Not responsible? They have lots of influence and many of them collaborate with billionaires. To say they aren’t at all responsible for their shitty ideas because they don’t possess as much wealth as billionaires is drastically ignorant.
Influence isn't always going to produce results. Musk and Bezos ruin lives. Gwenneth Paltrow gets well off people to waste a few hundred dollars over and over.
If you have any real examples I'd love to hear them
You literally don’t even know what you’re arguing about.
If you are trying to convince me that celebrities have zero influence in the world then you are wearing clown shoes.
I said influence isn't directly ruining lives
Give me an example instead of being an insufferable ass
Cool so now we are going to argue about degrees of influence? You’re the insufferable one because you’re all about arguing about stupid shit instead of just accepting that you’re wrong.
Instead you’re going to double down and defend celebrities. It’s OK that celebrities do garbage things because there is a billionaire around the corner who is worse. What an ignorant position to take.
I guess big corporations are wrong about using celebrities as frontmen for their shit business since according to you they have zero influence.
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I'm just saying, it's such an impact, according to you, please give me the very easy to find examples you have off the top of your head
Defending celebrities? What, did an actor steal your mom away from your dad or something? I don't know any or give a shit about anyone in Hollywood bud, keep your vivid imagination going if that makes you feel better.
The real point is they're not worth the effort if we're going to address real issues. You really think commercials are what are ruining so many people's lives? Really, you're that dense?
Why are you fighting so hard to not give an example?
You want examples of celebrities who have a fan base? What for?
To be honest I don’t even know what point you’re attempting to make.
You responded to my original comment about how I think that it’s unhealthy for people to have an obsession with celebrities and for whatever reason you decided to focus on the wrong part.
Are you trying to say that billionaires are worse? I am not disagreeing. All I am saying is that people need to stop giving a fuck what celebrities are doing and what they think. People need to focus more on individualism instead of some moron fad a celebrity is into.
I want celebrities who have ruined lives with their "influence"
And what are you going to do with said information? Are you writing a book?
You said being a fan of celebrities is dangerous to society. You said it was due to their influence. Really just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you had a point. Since you're so insistent refusing to come up with anything, I guess not
If you really think it’s a huge leap in critical thinking to imagine how someone can use their celebrity status to abuse people then that sounds like you’re extremely naive. That’s how you end up with assholes Bill Cosby. What’s the matter little buddy? Are you not getting enough attention at home?
There's a lot of insecure projection going on, and you're so cranky just for being asked for examples and clarification.
I didn't ask how. I asked what. You finally named a single celebrity, bravo, you're not as stupid as I gave you credit for
Cool cool good talk there chief keep up the good work.