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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Democrats have fought nationalized healthcare tooth and as well

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You say that, but when the Dems had a filibuster proof super majority in Congress for a handful of weeks over a decade ago, we got the ACA.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

They literally brought the health insurance executives in to write that bill. It was a step forward. But it was also a captive market that was supposed to be subsidized by state and federal governments. So the health insurance companies would just make a profit no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You say that, but when the Dems had a filibuster proof super majority in Congress for a handful of weeks over a decade ago, we got the ACA.

The ACA barely passed in its original form (219-212) with a bunch of democrats voting against it too. A few aligned themselves with big business however many other democrats voted against the ACA because they believe it didn't go far enough.

The ACA was still the biggest win for the American people on healthcare in decades.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, there were some pretty conservative Congress people back then. There no way we were gonna get enshrined abortion rights, since many Dems were staunchly pro-life, hence ACA as an alternative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey why did we get the shitty ACA instead of actual universal healthcare if the Dems had power and were committed to getting universal healthcare?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because there were other people in Congress who talked about death panels and tried to kill it at every turn. Reps hate the populace, and try their best to neuter everything good for the people. Also, some pretty right-leaning Dems were there. Have you paid ANY attention to politics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe don't tout a half-measure that comprimised with literal ghouls as a defining unequivocal win for the party then?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

You some champion of missing the point? That's what we got despite all odds.

It's like you people don't understand politics or history. No wonder we elected a fucking fascist into office. JFC