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While it's very unlikely that someone has a definitive answer, this question popped into my head after the assassination of the UHC CEO and it's been bothering me that I can't shake off this feeling that more is likely to happen (maybe not in higher frequency but potential).

Usually I could provide counter-arguments to myself in a realism/(should I buy apples or oranges comparison) kind-of sense but this one I feel more unsure about.

I wish I had more diverse exp in systems analysis as these kinds of questions that linger in my head really irritates my OCD brain as I just want to know what's the most likely answer.

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As John F Kennedy said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

Either we fix this peacefully through the democratic process, or people are gonna riot.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaires: yeahhh I'm just going to buy all the media, all the politicians, and make sure enough of my guys win that they stop any legislation that would cost me anything. Nothing could ever go wrong with effectively taking away people's choices right?

I'm thinking all we have left is roit. We've already lost the democratic process through propaganda outlets and bought and paid for candidates a while ago. There is no party for the working class. There is a party that likes to talk big, but when push comes to shove they don't do shit and have their chosen "enemy of the term" to pop up and take the fall to stop anything from passing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m honestly not sure which party you’re talking about. It’s just vague enough…

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

as much as i hate the "both sides are the same" argument when it comes to actual individual politicians, their actions, and policies. this is the one thing that the vast majority of them do have in common. taking billionaire money and letting it affect their decisions.

we were fucked as soon as citizens United passed. that was probably the inflection point that made violent revolution inevitable. when political bribes became legal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

That's the beauty of it, they're not wrong either way.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

I'm a fan of this belief because it provides hope in that with the increase of peace and harmony, humanity could course-correct towards a realized utopia.

The publicized hope of increased violence is a scary indicator that we're approaching closer to commonly associated fiction-based dystopias🫠

Blurry image of an anime girl holder her head with the caption "I hate it when a teacher puts '?' on my paper, like...I don't know either

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The publicized hope of increased violence is a scary indicator that we’re approaching closer to commonly associated fiction-based dystopias🫠

Honestly, I realized a few months ago that we're already way into dystopia territory. It clicked for me when I read a news story explaining how there are people in Los Angeles that make it their business to rent old, beat up vans and RVs parked on the street for homeless people to live in, for several hundreds of dollars a month. I did a search and found another article about it, linked below. How much more dystopic can things get? In fact, any of the massive homeless encampments we've been seeing are already plenty dystopic.

Edit: oops, it seems I had left out the link - https://abc7.com/los-angeles-vanlords-rv-renters-rvs/13322319/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

John F Kennedy said that at a time when the majority of Americans weren't overweight, undereducated, overworked, utterly dependant on their cars (which need the roads maintained by the government to work), and addicted to their phones. I don't think Americans have the physical or mental capability to wage an effective protest like what happened in the 20th century.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Considering the US (and most modern militaries) struggle against insurgencies and irregular militia (Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam) there's no reason to doubt the american public.

Much of the Vietcong were uneducated, underfed, impoverished rural farmers but they were a devastating force to GIs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The main US motivation in all wars, is to enrich weapons and oil industries. Winning or losing is both an end to a war. Only the process of losing motivates more funding, because the alternative is that the enemy wins... until the boondoggle seems too hopeless. The US would take civil war more seriously.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Give it a decade and people might become a lot leaner and a lot stronger though, I hope. Admittedly I don't have a lot of faith in my compatriots but it could happen.

[–] skulblaka 2 points 1 week ago

Luckily for us we've set things in motion to destroy most of the benefits that allowed us to live such a sheltered existence, so it doesn't look like most of us are going to have much of a choice about it. This isn't self sabotage, it's a training montage.