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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

...

Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, challenge accepted: every instance I come across from .world that has any indication of violence against anything living, well, I'll be reporting that, and I expect the mods to follow up on it quickly.

I'll start with the gardening instances, since plants do feel pain, and thus any pruning/harvesting/etc is an act of violence, and I'm surprised the .world mods haven't shut down such a violent instance.

Wait, they need to be banned outright, actually, because in order to garden, users are going to have to suggest that people dig into the dirt, and that's a pretty blatant call of violence against all organisms, including those at the microscopic level.

Better delete the woodworking instance too, since the only way to work with wood is to kill a tree and dismember its body, often skinning it immediately after it's been sawed off at the knees, juuuuuuust fresh enough to feel all the pain but not enough to fight back.

What an absolute joke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Many of us .world mods had nothing to do with these deletions and bannings and I would caution you against this sort of flag abuse in the communities I moderate. It looks like you have already started.

If you have an issue with what happened with the mods in c/news, don't take it out on the rest of us.

We hardly ever even delete comments in Ten Forward, let alone ban people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Or you could clarify your instance wide rules, which were apparently the justification for deleting a lot of what just got deleted?

I'm not gonna go around report flagging everything, I'm not that petty, and I don't know who's in charge of instance wide vs community specific rules, but maybe the core lemmy admin/mod crew should all actually clarify that you're not allowed to joke about or celebrate people's deaths, and that you don't actually mean that any threat of violence toward any living thing is actually against TOS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How are they my rules? Do you think I wrote them? Do you think I'm even an admin?

I can't clarify shit about what I didn't write and had no input on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sorry, I realized that and edited my post, but you replied very quickly.

I do not mean to call you out personally.

Point I'm trying to make is:

It would be cool if whoever is in charge of the instance wide rules made those rules actually reflect the kinds of 'violations' that are enforced, when those rules are specifically, and largely nonsensically, cited as explaining how and why certain comments are violations.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not flag abuse. It's clearly written in the instance TOS.

"We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Dude, do you think a meme with Jean-Luc Picard holding a gun is a threat or a call for violence in any form against any living creature?

Because I hate to tell you this, but Star Trek isn't real and Picard can't threaten anyone or cause anyone any violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I reported things that belong to the .world instance, and therefore fall under the .world rules under the .world Terms of Service we all agreed to.

I have nothing against you or your community, and hope you're doing well healthwise.

But I've also seen you rail against "not all cops are bad" as the lie you know it is in various comment sections, and now you're using the same excuse as to why your forum shouldn't be criticized. "We're not part of that, bring it up with them, even though we belong to the same org."

The rules apply to all of the forums on the instance, or it should apply to none of them. And if such radical thinking, the notion rules should be applied evenly and not be so broad to allow anything to meet the definition, results in me being banned from .world, then I welcome it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude, you're pissed off at one group of people (actually, it looks like one specific person) and attacking a totally different group because of it. That's what is going to get you banned. But it also sounds like that's what you want to happen, so I guess enjoy that.

[–] Shizrak 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's one specific person, shouldn't the rest of you, y'know, do something about it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you expect me to do about the one specific person they are pissed off at? Even if they are justifiably pissed off, what exactly do you think it is in my power to do?

[–] Shizrak 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd assume that the rest of the mods could stop a rogue mod from blatantly abusing their power. But if you can't, nevermind.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First of all, Jordan is in no way a "rogue mod."

Secondly, Ten Forward mods (and mods in other communities that have nothing to with this) can't do anything about News mods. This guy is just taking it out on us because he apparently can't take it out on who he wants to take it out on. And they're reporting a ton of posts.

They reported a fucking meme with Picard holding a gun for fuck's sake. I didn't even know any of this shit was going on until this started.

[–] Shizrak 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh Jordan is absolutely a rogue mod and always has been. I've seen his work before.

Dude regularly removes stuff that doesn't break any rules.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay well that's really not Ten Forward's problem or Lemmy Shitpost's problem. He doesn't mod in either of those. There are admins for a reason. This is just this person childishly annoying people who had nothing to do with it.

[–] Shizrak 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fair. But regular users can't do anything about it so we're bringing it to the attention of other moderators in the hopes that they can help.

That other guy's "protest" is misguided, but what the fuck else can we do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet you could create a community on that instance, and then you'd be a mod too and have just as much power as the dude above.

[–] Shizrak 2 points 1 week ago

That's fair. I was frustrated and typing fast so not all of my logic in this thread is sound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a lot of options on how to contact the admin right on the front page of lemmy.world. I am guessing that was not tried before this childish "I'm going to flag Picard memes because I'm mad" bullshit.

[–] Shizrak 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, I use an app on my phone so I've never seen that page. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

And enjoy Lemmy's further decline into Reddit 2.0.

Or is that going to get me banned too?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ooooh, he cautions us. How scary. I’m shivering in my bunny slippers here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cool. And if you do what this person did in communities I moderate, you will be banned just like they are. And if you were uncivil to someone like this in a community I moderated, the comment would be deleted.

So if you prefer "this is a fact" to "I caution you," go with that. I was trying to be nicer about it.