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Some progress, finally.

Edit: for the benefit of the tinfoil hat wearers, assisted dying is not the same as euthanasia.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It literally is a fallacy. This is not up for debate. The slippery slope fallacy is a real fallacy, and this is an example of that fallacy.

Circular reasoning fallacy

I've worked in care homes

Anecdotal fallacy

Your viewpoint has been rejected by the populace

Ad populum fallacy

and most importantly, by MPs.

Appeal to authority fallacy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lol you're just trolling now. You don't even know how those work.

Calling out the slippery slope argument for being the nonsense that it is is not an example of circular reasoning.

Me sharing my experience and saying that I think you'd have a different view if you had seen what I've seen is not an anecdotal fallacy - that is where you use anecdotes and try to represent them as objective facts.

I didn't dismiss your view via ad populum fallacy, I just said it's pointless moaning about the idea of people dying painlessly if they choose because the debate has already been settled by MPs and the public don't have the appetite to have them backtrack on it.

The appeal to authority fallacy is about dismissing an opinion as being invalid because an authorative figure days otherwise. That's not what I said. I said the debate has been settled, so it's pointless campaigning against right now.

Why do you want people to suffer for as long as possible? What evidence do you have that the law will become so lax that doctors will aggressively push people to being euthanised? Is there any evidence? Because "they just will mate. Slippery slope innit." isn't one IMO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What evidence do you have that the law will become so lax that doctors will aggressively push people to being euthanised?

Canada

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because "they just will mate. Slippery slope innit." isn't one IMO.

^^

You're just back at the "it's a slippery slope" argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Canada literally isn't the UK.

The motion that was passed is nothing like the framework Canada has.

Plenty of countries ban drinking alcohol. You may as well be saying that having restrictions on alcohol for under 18s means it's a slippery slope and it'll be banned here. After all, Saudi Arabia literally did it. America literally did it. Qatar literally did it. Etc.

Like I said, I want evidence. Not slippery slope fallacy. Show me MPs saying they intend to implement the system Canada has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Moving the goalposts