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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use an app called Tessie. It's $5 a month for the rest of my life but i do like it . Keeps track of battery usage, trips, and links to Alexa.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotcha - I guess I’m still not following though. Twitter and Reddit upped API fees because the data could be used to train LLMs.

Obviously if you had access to everyone’s driving/Tesla data - that’d be valuable - but I am assuming the API data is only for the owners using these the apps like you mentioned.

Is the data available across all users or are they prepping to release some kind of anonymized user data?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can’t eee how blocking API use helps train LLMs.

Even if the users has a 3rd party app, it’s still making the API calls, so whatever data is already on the server side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think you might be misinterpreting me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Most of these apps run via the app providers servers. So while each subscriber provides an apikey that only gets data on their car(s), the app provider can save every single api response and whatever they want with it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why Alexa?

Other than that, a $1 notepad and a pencil will do usage tracking just fine for years. You can't take a trip unless you're already sitting in the car where you can see and write down the info.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've decided that we were just fine without the internet, please send your comment to me via written correspondence, since you have your notepad ready anyway.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The internet allows us to communicate quickly over distances we couldn't otherwise without a long time between messages. What does this app do that I can't do cheaper and easier with pencil and paper?

I'm not opposed to technology, but I'm not paying for it if there's no benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But it does it both easier and better than pen/paper because it does it automatically without them needing to even think about it. And it's already available electronically so they can graph it and run statistics on their usage and trips...you know, actually use the data for something purposeful.

With pen/paper they just have a sheet they can't do anything with. They now have to manually enter all this data to use it for anything, which is a lot on unnecessary manual effort.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok.

On my phone, I can use Google sheets (or excel or whatever) and get all the benefits, except for the automatic recording. For $5/mo in perpetuity?

I'm not anti app. I don't understand why someone would pay this much for this function.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you want all the metrics that it logs automatically, you're going to be spending 20min every time you drive anywhere logging everything manually. And then you're still not getting the continuous logging during drives. Plus you still need to do all the data processing yourself on top of that.

I get why some people pay for these things.