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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The best class I took in college was an intercession course about the Vietnam War. We had to read an entire book pretty much every day, which was great prep for grad school.

I basically learned that the entire war was completely unjustified, it was horrific and brutal on both sides in ways that aren’t talked about, but that ultimately the United States had absolutely no business interfering. Vietnam had spent years under French colonial control, which they overthrew under their own power. They had already asserted a desire to rule themselves.

Tonkin was also a genuine false flag, which just isn’t acknowledged? We manufactured the cause for an extremely unpopular war. So many young man died or were disabled because of something that was pointless.

That class was first that really got me to question the patriotic narrative I was taught about American history in high school.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Of course we can't acknowledge it, because then we can't make the same "mistake" again and people will start questioning real causus belli like saddams WMDs which we'll find any day now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Vietnam got a rough fucking deal in the 1900s. Shortly after the US left, the Cambodians under Pol Pot invaded, and they were brutal

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And Vietnam ended up kicking Pol Pot off which is impossible to argue as anything but a win for humanity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah they deserve some sort of award for that.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Twice, the buggers