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An average of 140 women and girls were killed by a partner or relative per day in 2023, the UN says (abcnews.go.com)
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A U.N. report shows that 140 women and girls were killed daily by intimate partners or family members in 2023, totaling 51,100 victims, an increase of 2,300 from 2022.

The rise reflects improved data collection rather than an increase in violence.

The highest rates were in Africa, with 2.9 victims per 100,000 people.

Despite global prevention efforts, these killings, often the result of ongoing gender-based violence, persist at alarming levels.

The report emphasizes the preventability of such violence through timely and effective interventions.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Of the offenders for whom gender was known, 90.3 percent were males.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain

Is that fucking better for you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The victims also are primarily men.

Men vs men violence makes up more of the graph then all other pairings combined

Men are the primary victims and offenders of violence, by an incredibly large margin.

Of the 12,996 murder victims in 2010 for which supplemental data were received, most (77.4 percent) were male.

Men are twice to four times as likely to be the victim of murder

But yeah no, it's women that for sure are the "disproportionately affected victims"

It's a lot of bullshit, women are slightly more victims than men, maybe, in specifically domestic violence. And even then the gap is incredibly small.

Meanwhile men are substantially more likely to be the victim in every other category, and those categories dwarf domestic violence by such a huge amount.

But articles will skim over that as a non issue, and will spend paragraphs talking about how women are the real victims here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of the offenders for whom gender was known, 90.3 percent were males.

Of stats that include "fathers", "husbands", "sons", "boyfriends", etc... You don't see how those stats as you present it is meaningless to the OP's discussion and proves "Men are dying an order of magnitude more."? Men can kill their fathers, husbands, sons, etc...

You're talking about who's doing the killing, not what gender the people who were killed were.

Of the 12,996 murder victims in 2010 for which supplemental data were received, most (77.4 percent) were male

Source: your source.

You're cherry picking really dumb shit. Especially when your own source PROVES the person you're arguing with correct.

Don't get me wrong... What you should have quoted:

Of the female murder victims for whom the relationships to their offenders were known, 37.5 percent were murdered by their husbands or boyfriends. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 2 and 10.)

This is a problem. But that's of the 22.6% of homicides on the table already (removing the 77.4% males), so we're talking about ~8.5% with no given information about what that looks like in the reverse, nor what the Female-Female rates are. That's a loaded stat without the other two being present on the page as well. If raw numbers match or are similar enough... then it's not what you're insinuating it is at all.

The only actually relevant thing you can probably stat with that page is that men kill more women than women kill men. Except that would be expected since Men on average are physically stronger and are more capable of defending against an average Woman. You would expect more "success" in men attempting to kill women, and more "failure" in women attempting to kill men with just that fact alone.

And lastly, since you already omitted data..

Law enforcement reported 665 justifiable homicides in 2010. Of those, law enforcement officers justifiably killed 387 felons, and private citizens justifiably killed 278 people during the commission of a crime.

I bet this also has a directionality to it as well that would need to be applied.