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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Letting social media bully you into making stupid financial decisions is not the play.

Elon may be an idiot but he isn't the only person at Tesla. It's not like he's gone to the factory and hand built every vehicle. They have their flaws, but the cars themselves are still totally fine.

The only reason people even care is because some narcissistic billionaire can't stop yapping on social media.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They have their flaws, but the cars themselves are still totally fine.

Reliability statistics and some of the widest engineering tolerances in the industry disagree with you - they are really, objectively not good cars... but they're comfy, so people don't care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Can you point to objective data that shows they're worse than most other car brands?

I've heard the same but it's usually in the comments of some sensationalized news content after a tragic accident occurs, as if other vehicles don't also have bad things happen in a collision.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have their flaws, but the cars themselves are still totally fine.

Deadliest vehicle on the road: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/tesla-highest-rate-deadly-accidents-study-1235176092/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Though models from Hyundai, Chevrolet, Mitsubishi, Porsche, and Honda occupied the top five spots on the list, the Tesla Model Y, a mid-size SUV, came in sixth, with a fatal accident rate 3.7 times higher than the average car, and 4.8 times higher than the average SUV. The Model S rate is double that of the average car.

Per the article, they are certainly one of the most fatal in the event of an accident but not the deadliest. Sixth place is definitely not a good ranking but all of the brands above them are highly reputable and long established.

For comparison purposes, the five cars above it had a fatal accident rate at 4.6x or higher more likely than the average.