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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ok, am conservative.

I'm going to give my thoughts.

So I'm fine with most things between consenting adults. The problem is when there isn't consent and in a larger group, a lack of consensus.

Kids can't consent, and despite claims to the contrary, there's been a couple of trans kids. The issue I see is the amount of push back on passing laws against trans kids. Why on earth do y'all care so much about banning something that isnt happening?

I'm not into sports, but I can see how unfair it is when a bio man fights a bio woman. Even if they're taking mtf hormones, there's still a ton of testorone. Just from a safety aspect, they shouldn't allow bio men in women's boxing or MMA or anything like that. Chess and stuff of that nature doesn't really care about the sex that much. And there's been more a couple of sports women who are against it too. There's a lack of consensus.

As an aside, we were making a ton of progress against gender roles, and now here we are reinforcing them. Can't even wear drag now without being called trans. It's annoying.

Why are you guys so obsessed with labels? Let dudes wear dresses and women wear whatever. You don't need a label for it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ok, tentatively, that's a small sample size, but if it scales up, transwomen still have higher absolute handgrip strength, lower forced expiratory volume in 1 s:forced vital capacity ratio and lower relative V̇O2max. They still went through male puberty and are reaping the benefits.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

you lose a lot of muscle mass and grip strength in the first year of mtf HRT. You should look into things before stating them as facts.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You should check out the study the other guy linked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

You should learn basic facts about what you're saying online before using them as basis for your trash political views

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

But a higher expiratory volume and higher VO2max is better. So they have an advantage in grip strength and a disadvantage in everything else...

Also consider that even within cis women, there's a huge variation in ability. So there are plenty of cis women with a higher grip strength than some trans women.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

When we're talking about trans kids, it's about puberty blockers. Why force children to go through puberty that they didn't consent to? Puberty has permanent effects.

You seem misinformed about trans people in sports, but I think the other comment covered it. Also consider that it's just a small minority of people, most of which are not even doing that well in their sport and just want to participate like anyone else.

And as far as labels go, that's because of the culture war.

Can't even wear drag now without being called trans.

The left certainly isn't saying this. That attitude comes from ignorance and not knowing the difference. If you had interacted with the trans community, you would know that we're not putting people in boxes or reinforcing gender roles. Especially when you consider nonbinary people.

Labels are actually important. "cross dressing" and being trans are two completely different things. One is personal expression, while the other is identity. A trans man could wear a dress, for example, and it wouldn't make him less of a man.