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[–] [email protected] 55 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Progress isn't a straight line, and sometimes there are setbacks on the way. I'm disappointed, of course, but I'm optimistic that we'll manage.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We may yet manage as a country, but the millions that die from this election won’t get to see it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Soldiers knocking down doors to arrest millions of illegal aliens and everyone who looks like an illegal alien and shoving them into camps, what could go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think we will see that, but i do think we will see ice raids on businesses that tend to hire immigrants and fake crackdowns on paperwork that dramatically increases the time and hassle for everything, and weird pushes for all paperwork to be in English.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It is literally what they're promising.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, but so was build a wall. I really think/hope that there's too much infighting and shitslinging for them to follow through on much. They're good at blocking thanks, but not super great at passing things. Concepts of plans and all...

[–] [email protected] -5 points 19 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Women. Queer people. Non-white people. Hell, even white straight cis evangelical Christian rich men who die from being sick.

There will be so much death.

It will be unending.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That does not clarify anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

How about the fact drill baby drill means seeing a 3 degree Celsius increase by 2100. That's the lifetime of many of the people in this earth. That kind of change will kill many ecosystems and make deserts out of a lot where we live and grow food. We know we can't stop going past 1.5 degrees now do to our slow changes. Instead we are hitting the gas pedal according to Trump. The oceans, plantlife on land, everything that consumes it is in jeopardy. Estimates are around 60% of animal populations since the 70s. At some point you break the link in the food "chain" if you will, and larger masses die off, until it is unrecoverable.

"We can farm fish". <- We farm fish in the U.S. ship it to China to package and then ship it back to put it on our shelves. That's how wasteful we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I’m not about to provide you with masturbation material.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It doesn't clarify anything because so far I've been told

  1. People are going to die (I asked why)
  2. Those people are minorities (which doesn't say why they would die)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I love how you have downvotes for asking for clarification. As if asking for it is an argument deserving of downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

A fellow Lemmit who enjoys split score totals!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I think that the us perspective on politics is surprising self-centered. If millions will die remains to be seen, but an unpredictable us leadership will certainly shift power dynamics on an international scale. The trump administration might randomly decide to side with land grabbing dictators, might embolden Israel, or switch to Doge Coin as the main currency. Those things might not directly cause death, but will disrupt the world stage to a degree which might overpower currently stable institutions. Which in turn might lead to death and suffering as a consequence. I'm not trying to say that everything should remain as is. Things are awful in a lot of places, but one of the biggest and most powerful nations with a "leader" that might throw a world ending tantrum over a Twitter thread is nothing anybody, but the most nihilistic acclerationists want. Also Trump's plans to withdraw from climate change mitigation will certainly add to the pile of dead bodies which we will inherit in the next 50 year as a consequence of our actions today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

And progress without testing it's resiliency against malicious actors will not last. As much as we hate Trump being elected and staffing clowns in each position, it will test what has been made so far. Row v. Wade, as we now know, should have been stronger. The Voting Rights Act too. The states that required the law to be fair have pulled back the law and reveal little has changed.

No one likes getting burned but fire is useful for showing us what burns easily and what withstands the heat. We will rebuild stronger and know what works.