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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

large print volume (250×220×270 mm)

Yeah that's really not considered a large print volume anymore for consumer printers.. It's only slightly above standard of most printers these days...Hit me with minimum 300x300x300 print area and we can start calling it large build volume.

Price is still too high IMO, it should be €1050 for the assembled printer, not the DIY kit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Price is still too high IMO, it should be €1050 for the assembled printer, not the DIY kit.

Considering the Bambu X1C costs 1050€ I'm surprised they were able to get the kit price down to 1050€ while still manufacturing in the EU.

Looking forward to the reviews to see how they compare.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can self source a voron for that amount, and that's without any of the benefits of large scale purchasing like Prusa has. I'm just really not impressed by the price point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

I have a Voron 2.4 right now, and had a Prusa MK3 before that.

It remains to be seen what additional work the kit amounts to. The Prusa XL can be assembled within a few hours while the Prusa MK3 is a day project and the Voron is a multi day project, not even including the time needed to research the different Voron kits.

Assuming it does not lack in features or quality, I think the price for the kit is fair since it includes the full Prusa support, next day shipping for replacement parts and it is made in the EU. The Voron with its flying gantry is dope, but I do sometimes miss being able to just write Prusa about an issue and get replacement parts under warranty in 2-3 days.

[–] AlDente 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A Voron V2.4 for cost of this kit ($950 / 1050 EUR)? Sure buddy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

1,000 bucks isn't far off what the middle of the road cost of a 2.4 is. I've seen kits for as low as like 550-600 bucks shipped, this is without printed parts. The high end stuff like LDO or Siboor are 1,200-1,500.

[–] AlDente 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

From what I've seen, middle of the road 300 mm Voron V2.4 kits are around $1300. I believe the lowest I've seen was around $950, excluding printed parts (which the same company was selling separately for over $200). When I tried compiling a BOM with self-sourced high quality parts, the total reached over $1700 before I gave up on that idea. Where have you seen $600 kits? If these are still available, I may consider one. However, I'm hesitant to go with a kit that may have lower quality components. Personally, I'm really excited for this new Prusa and will probably pick up a kit once they are available. Unless, of course, Vorons are really that affordable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Usually I see them on Aliexpress, fysetc just had a 2.4 kit for $728 with free shipping during they're 11/11 sale. Gotta really pay attention on there though because sometimes you'll see a kit listed for cheap with like $150-$200 shipping. But if you're patient you can find really good prices. I know someone last year that got a Micron plus kit for like €550 total shipped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In fairness, they never said a 2.4.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there a different current version that would be better to compare against the Prusa?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The trident is probably a more fair comparison given that both it and the CORE One use 3x lead screws to move (and presumably level) the bed.

You can get a 300mm^3 LDO trident kit for $1,200, which appears to be the price of the Prusa. You can of course go cheaper (formbot for $690 with a V6 hot end) and more expensive (a custom BOM in a box from say West3d that starts at $1,300).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better compared to the MK4S price since you get the enclosure with it.

That being said, definitely high compared to bambu, but that is also because bambu takes advantage of much lower labor, operating, and land costs in china. It is quite normal for EU-designed and certainly EU manufactured products to be more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, but this is likely still assembled from components manufactured in China. So for the DIY kit it's only pre-assembly of submodules that's done in Czech republic (depending on how pre-assembled the kit is). If you have to assemble all components yourself, then they'll have close to no manufacturing cost in EU.