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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 week ago (58 children)

There sure are a lot of people trying to blame the left because their strategy of appealing to the middle failed.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well yeah, otherwise they’d have to consider actually changing their shit strategy

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Even after all this the DNC are already bowing down to the fascist position because they lost because they were “too woke”.

This is when the democrats were already running a far right platform of “we want to fund the police, not defund them”, following Trump’s border policy, “most lethal army”, “Israel must expand its borders”, “I’ll have a Republican in my cabinet”. And they weren’t “woke” at all. Kamala threw trans people in the trash saying “we’ll follow the law” when it comes to trans issues. It was the Republicans who were running hundreds of millions of dollars worth of attack ads on trans people and democrats weren’t saying shit.

The DNC have once again failed to learn and are looking for a “centrist” chair, doing exactly the same thing of shutting down leftist voices and trying to appeal to and compromise with the fascists instead of listening to people like Bernie and AOC.

You’d think after they utterly failed and managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and get an out and proud fascist elected they would finally learn that they need to address the real issues that affect all working class people.

The ratchet effect is real.

The Republican critique of the democrats is kind of right in a way in that they are just the same rich people not doing anything about the cost of living and only using identity politics to “virtue signal”. They’re right wingers with rainbow flags. That doesn’t do much for oppressed minorities except make us the target of attacks. What would benefit queer and other oppressed minorities more is build a society in which we can afford homes to live in, food to eat, access to healthcare. But they want to make it all about pronouns because that is easy for them to look like they’re someone “on the left”, when economically they’re not on the left at all.

There’s really no hope with the DNC. We just need to organize in our own communities because the democrats certainly aren’t coming to save anyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

they need to address the real issues that affect all working class people.

But of course this would mean clawing back some concessions from the capitalist class, and they own both parties, so....nope.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago

Idk. I’m sure the cheneys endorsement brought out dozens of voters.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Couldn't have said it better. This post is pure cringe but the op is a perfect example of why Democrats lost.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There sure are a lot of people that didn’t do jack shit and think they have a place to blame anyone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Canadian, voted for left wing party that had the best chance of winning despite the leader being a gilded spoon brat who couldn't lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

I did my fucking part. All you wannabe progressives in the US had to do was vote to keep the Nazi out of office and you couldn't even do that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

American. Voted for Harris. I think you responded to the wrong person.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That was in general to the people who "held back their vote" to "teach the Democrats a lesson". The kind of people who don't realize that the luxuries the west has were hard fought and think they will always be there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Ahh. Gotcha. Well said, friend from the not too distant north!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I wasn't super fond of the democrat's platform either man, but I definitely wanted Not Fascism and Some Semblance of Human Rights to win.

Now we have nothing, and I have to make plans to figure out how to get my girlfriend out of the country if she ever needs reproductive care. Great job!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Well hopefully blaming progressives instead of the people who actually voted for trump makes you feel better at least?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

A party that insists we have to support genocide is already fascist and has no regard for human rights except to use as bargaining chips to get votes. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

There is more than one topic to consider. If they both are truly the same in your mind on that topic maybe look at other factors that heavily impact people? Voting for a 3rd party who has no chance of winning literally does nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (23 children)

'But Trump' got you Trump twice now, and you're blaming the people that tried to save you from yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

News flash, neoliberals are already fascist, they are just better at hiding it. They even endorsed Dick fucking Cheney.

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