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“They are designed with safety in mind” yea! That’s the fuckin’ bar, it’s not special!
They can get good crash ratings all day but they keep struggling with people getting stuck in the cars, fires were an issue at least for a bit, and their marketting is willfully lying about the vehicles abilities so the average person thinks the car can do shit that it really can’t.
Surviving the crash is only step one before being able to get out while shit’s on fire or underwater, and step zero is avoiding it which they also can’t manage very well.
Yup. Some models don’t even have manual releases on the rear doors. If the battery ignites and you don’t have power to open the doors, you’re fucked. You only have about 15 seconds to get clear before you’re cooked by the lithium flames, and that’s not enough time to climb out of the back seat and exit via the front doors. Especially when you wasted the first 15 seconds fiddling with the door handle, because you expected it to actually open the door like it would on any other car.
Even the manual releases are difficult to use. The rear release (if it’s available at all) is hidden under two covers.
Saying “they’re designed with safety in mind” is, at best, misleading. Passing safety tests is the bare minimum. It would be like a contractor proudly boasting that they build all of their homes to code. Congrats, you built them to the bare minimum to be legally considered habitable? Building to code is the minimum to pass pre-sale inspection, not the goal.
Oh give me a break. Morons buying the cars is not Teslas fault. If you can't read you got no business driving at all, and that counts double for Instagram Barbie getting "stuck" during car updates. There are some bad accidents, and some of them are even Tesla's fault, but by the numbers the fires, autopilot errors, and getting stuck in the car are extreme edge cases compared to units sold. Of course there's no need for extra risk and these issues should be fixed, but Tesla is no more responsible for people to don't read directions than BMW is for people who don't know their cars have turn signals.
Tesla isnt "struggling" with these issues, it's just cool to shit on Tesla on the Internet.
Except that we know their products have massive failings that other car companies don’t deal with. Like bro the doors can’t even fucking open properly in emergencies and people have died in them.
Tesla produces bad products, fucking deal with it.
When they’re lying to the public I think they do deserve some of the blame. “Full self-driving” is a fucking scam and Musk is a con artist.
Musk IS a con artist. It also says full self driving is supervised only. If you can't read, well, life is gonna be hard for you.
Admitting you're lying in the fine print doesn't absolve you from lying in more obvious marketing materials. You don't have to like it but very few people read the fine print.
It's not fine print yo. When you go to use it, the "(supervised)" bit is always on the same line and there are gratuitous warnings. The only people who don't know it has limitations are people reading about accidents in the news. People have been trying to circumvent the rules since plain old autopilot was out with water bottles taped to steering wheels, and when you break the rules you're not entitled to sympathy.
Anyone saying accidents are because Tesla is making false statements has never owned one and are talking out of their ass. You have to navigate at least 3 menus to just ENABLE these features and all of them say "you gotta pay attention".
When it comes to buying one? Sure, let's say false advertising. When it comes to accidents, that is willfully not acknowledging warnings.