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We will need small and independent commercial providers for the Fediverse.

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[–] Barbarian 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is that an apples-to-apples comparison though? To me, that sounds like "Show me a soup kitchen that's able to pay market rate for chefs".

Also, by that logic, Reddit is a failure. They don't pay mods either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok. Fair enough, moderators usually are also part of the community, so they also have the incentive to keep it going well even if unpaid.

Yet, the point stands. Remove "moderators" from the previous comment. Show me any donation-based instance on Mastodon that is able to pay (market-rate) for the labor of admins and developers.

[–] Barbarian 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why aren't admins considered part of the community? When it comes to the mastodon developers, they're making 30,000 USD a month. I think they're fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That money is to cover everything: servers, designers, developers. Eugen gets maybe 10% of that money. A developer making $3k/month (without any employment benefits) is something completely unthinkable. People can make more money than that by just being able to spell Javascript.

[–] Barbarian 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not unusual for employees of charitable non-profits to earn less than their for-profit counterparts. Again, I refer back to my soup analogy.

Also, digging around, I found out that patreon is not the only source of fund-raising and that they have received a 50,000 EUR bug bounty grant.

I don't mean to imply that Mastodon devs are rolling around in a pool of gold like Scrooge McDuck, but they are getting funded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

sounds like “ Show me a soup kitchen that’s able to pay market rate for chefs”.

What would happen if the masses realized how fast food is bad for them and stopped eating at McDonalds? Would they go to eat on a soup kitchen, or would they be expected to buy/grow their own food?