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Twitch declares “Zionist” a slur — and a bannable offense (www.theverge.com)

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (20 children)

Calling zionism what it is shouldn't be discouraged with dog whistles masquerading as conduct policies.

At the same time I'd like to remind folks that not all Jewish people subscribe to Zionism.

There are a couple Jewish lead organizations that fight for the freedom of Palestine and have been very critical of Israel for many years.

Jewish Voices for Peace is one group. I wonder how they'd feel about Twitches new policy. I'm genuinely curious what their opinion would be.

Edit - corrected Jewish Voices for Peace

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (7 children)

At the same time I’d like to remind folks that not all Jewish people subscribe to Zionism.

Further to this, the majority of zionists are christians.

[–] zqps 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I know there's a lot of Christians involved but how do we know it's the majority? Young Israelis are raised largely around Zionist propaganda after all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's about 100 million evangelical christians in the US, and a LifeWay poll in 2017 showed that about 80% essentially considered themselves zionists. That's 80 million. There's 15.8 million jews worldwide. So the non-Jewish zionists outweigh Jewish zionists by a fair margin. Heck, they outweigh the zionist and the non-zionist jews taken together by a beefy margin, even.

[–] zqps 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's an insane number. Must be a very broad definition of Zionist.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

oh no, statistics that challenge my world view! Quick, let's not look into it at all and move the goal posts!

Could you at least try to engage in this discussion? Or maybe come up with any evidence supporting your world view?

[–] zqps 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A different definition of the term isn't a different worldview. Also, not immediately spinning every exchange into an exhaustive debate isn't a critical character flaw. Unlike being an insufferable ass about not getting the amount of attention you apparently feel entitled to.

Though I would take look at that poll about 80% of Christians being "essentially" Zionists if you'd link to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

the majority of zionists are christians.

us braindead fundies are numbered in dozens of millions and they largely support Zionism.