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NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Depends how they behave. If they behave like "Expats", who don't care about integrating into our society, don't care about learning the local language even after years, they are not welcome.

If they integrate seamless (and this does not imply giving up their identity, just to make sure), and become a good member of this society, be welcome.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Summed it up pretty well.

We love our country, and welcome you to join it. But join us - don't bring your country's problems here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i barely integrate now as an american; mostly because of my neuro-divergence makes it easy for people to misread me due my intonation and body language and the number episodes of misunderstanding happened MUCH MORE frequently when i visited my potential new home country as a tourist over the last 40ish years.

i automatically qualify for citizenship for the country and i wonder what it's going to be like if i have to live there because i have both legal and cultural claim to the country; but i'm very much american plus an american that always seems arrogant and callous to everyone no matter how much he tries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you speak the country's language already?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yes and i've leveraged it along w the stereotype of the entitled american tourist (thanks to my very strong american accent) to get out of most of those episodes.

[–] Reverendender 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

When I here Expat I assume asshole xD

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That seems to be a hard thing for many Americans and Brits to do. I have a couple American friends living in Europe who've learned the language and immersed themselves in the culture, but they're exceptional. One even learned both the national and regional language. Not too many Americans who can converse in Catalan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It may be hard, but if you want to live in a foreign country, it is the minimum requirement I would expect. Forcing your host to permanently bend over backwards just to cater for your lack of effort is most impolite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You would literally lose your job and social life in the US if you said this in America about immigrants lol

[–] pishadoot 1 points 1 month ago

The fact you're getting dunked on for this comment shows how delusional people are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am born, raised, and live in one of the most diverse cities on the planet. I could care less about you assimilating to my culture. And I definitely don't care if you can't speak the language.

That's some Nazi crap to judge people like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Couldn't care less

Learning the language of the country you're moving to should be the bare minimum of what's expected of you. I'd suggest taking a history lesson if your goto is comparing it to Nazism, seems rather disrespectful to actual victims of the Nazi Party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's interesting how the top comment here and its most upvoted comment are literally Trump's words reshuffled and phrased 'nicely.' When looking at the rise of the right in the European continent, I wonder how many would agree with reworded american fascist statements while condemning the fascists, like some of those 'street interview' videos do with public figure quotes that are attributed to individuals that the interviewees agree/disagree with.