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Gay 'lifelong Democrat' who voted Trump opens up on what's happened to him since coming out as pro MAGA
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this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
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The claim that there’s so much hate and vitriol on the left and not among MAGA people is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. That’s not even remotely close to my experience on platforms like Twitter and reddit.
Oh there's plenty of hate on both sides, but in my experience, the hate I get from the Left is much more personal. The right just thinks everyone is an idiot. The left gets up and personal when they insult tho. Not cool.
I've had people on Lemmy who've followed me to other instances and other conversations just to downvote me, all because I didn't vote for Harris. The Right doesn't seem to put in that much effort it. lol
Just my personal experience, and of the guy in this news article, so YMMV.
Hopefully, now that the election is over, the venom and rhetoric can quiet down a little and people can start working together and not be so judgemental.
Both sides need to work on that, in my opinion.
The insults I get from right wingers tend to be things like “fuck you libtard pussy” while the worst from leftists is something like “I guess you love genocide”.
And maybe this is where we disagree, but I think the "fuck you libtard pussy" insult is way less severe than the "I guess you love genocide."
The fuck you comment is just dismissive and they move on.
But the genocide mark is implying that you love something you don't, and they are trying to trap you, guilt you, mock you, and make you feel like shit about your life and your choices.
Right insulters just want to ignore you and want you to go away.
Left insulters definitely don't like to move on. They want you to fucking hate yourself. That's the difference I see.
For the record, tho, I didn't bow down to either side's insults. I was proud to vote Socialist party before election day (early mail-in!), and still proud after the election. :)
And I STILL get DM's that say I am working for Russia and getting paid in rubles and that I want to destroy America. Even tho the election is over. Just because I voted third party. (Hi, poopernickel, I'm still not in russia, still not gonna vote for your party, and I'm still around!)
Conservatives have also in my experience been way more likely to say mildly veiled death threats, if that means anything to you.
At least the “guess you love genocide” is an attempt to persuade you about a political topic. It has absolutely nothing to do with “want you to hate yourself”. The “libtard” shit is precisely the topic here - just plain hate.
Not sure if you're aware that the scumbag you're attempting to converse with has been widely banned for being a sealion and troll. This is just one of their many alts. They spend most of their life just trying to piss people off. I think they get sexually aroused when they think they've pissed another person off.
Just a bizarre human, whose mission is to waste everyone's time and upset them. Literally never seen them interact any other way.
Definitely a concern trolling and “just asking questions” vibe.
How was I concern trolling or giving a just asking questions vibe? I posted an article, you responded and I responded. lol
Because you act like you don’t understand reasonable perspectives.
I do understand reasonable perspectives. I don't agree with yours though. And that's ok. We don't have to agree. You have your opinion, I have mine. It's over, man.
Disagreeing and understand aren’t the same things, though they can be related.
crying
You're not going to change my mind. I appreciate and respect that you have your opinions. I just don't share them. All good, friend!
There seems to be a lot of projection in your statement.
Wow, you are still really really mad I voted third party, huh? Sorry, comrade, I'll continue to vote Socialist just like I did last election. No matter how mad it makes you.
Because of scum like you, there likely won't be any more elections.
But I remember you lying (your fucking ass off, on purpose, for a specific reason) many many times about thinking Trump would lose by a landslide lmao
Meh, I didn't vote for him. I voted Socialist. Remember? Although, I really liked Jill Stein, I went Socialist.
And remember when you liked to tell everyone I lived in Russia and that I would disappear after the election? And remember when you offered people your program that you wrote to track me?
Maybe writing programs that track people on Lemmy--all because you're mad that they aren't voting for your candidate--isn't the best way to win over voters. Because I noticed that Trump won the electoral vote AND the popular vote.
What was the "specific reason" that I would lie about thinking that Trump would lose?
Oh, and I noticed something over in c/politcs on .world the last few days: I see LOTS of people talking about third parties. Like wanting to vote for them, or even starting them, and giving up on the democratic party, etc.
Man, I wonder who started that trend over there and who's behind all of that rallying over there right now? Any ideas on who that could be? Cuz sounds like things are really chaotic over there.
Oh well, with your keen instinct to try to silence anyone who disagrees with you, I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Thanks, friend!
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
I don’t have to agree to anything, but okay. You could come up with some reasons why you feel that death threats, slurs and insults are less hateful.
It’s also notable that the “fuck you libtard” type of response is far more common than the “you love genocide”. A small handful of leftists act like that. Much more common is moderate left/US liberal people who politely engage in conversation. You can see that all over Lemmy and Reddit. Meanwhile, try going to Reddit’s /r conservative and criticize Trump, or even just repeat things he’s said that make him look bad. You’ll get insulted and banned quickly.
US liberals look down on certain groups for features they could change - being sexist, ignorant, violent, you know, typical hardcore Trump supporters. Hardcore Trump supporters look down on people for things they can’t change - being non-white, poor, or a woman.
I mean, just read the posts on /r/conservative or /r/conspiracy. Check out the racism and hatred of women, the poor and immigrants among those communities. Saying US liberals are hateful compared to MAGA people is perhaps one of the most absurd things anyone has ever told me.
Which was happening on Lemmy pre-election. A lot.
But you're right, you don't have to agree with me on anything. And I don't have to agree with you on anything. I have received more hate from liberals on Lemmy than I have from conservatives. And they were more hateful.
My personal experience. And that doesn't match your personal experience.
You know about banning. Probably lost count of how many accounts you get banned from for being a sealion and troll 🥰
Three. Is that so high that you lost count?
Yep, all because I didn't support Harris, I voted Socialist, and I posted ACCURATE news articles about how the polls were showing Trump gaining on Harris, before she DID get decimated in the election. She lost both the popular and electoral votes!
Hmmm, funny how that works, isn't it?
And yet here I am, in spite of your little creepy program that you wrote and offered to people so they could stalk and downvote every comment I make.
How are ya, friend? I don't see you over in c/politcs much anymore. What happened? Oh! It's became a toxic hellhole because you all are so mad that you lost.
Here's the latest modlog to there: https://lemmy.world/c/politics
lol
And how "many accounts" have I had banned? I was banned on one account, universal monk (Socialist Mormon Satanist), on .world. What are these other accounts you speak of?
Here's the mod log of my banning, for everyone to see. I stand by everything I did and said: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252?page=1&userId=9454261
And the news articles I posted, and got banned for, that you all thought was "fake propaganda" ended up being true. And they were from legit news sources.
You do realise that Trump lost electoral and popular vote, right?! Guess it wasn't so fake after all, huh?
Still whining about the accurate DM I sent a week ago I see.
I'm not whining. I'm actually glad that people know that you think I'm getting paid by the russians to post. It wasn't just in DM's, you said it all over c/poltics in .world. Which got removed for breaking community rules.
And I'm glad that people know that you wrote a program to track me on Lemmy and then offered it to others.
All because I voted for a Socialist third-party in the election. Which I still stand by.
The election is over, friend. You can stop thinking that every poster you don't like is being paid by the russians, and then then track them with your little program. It's wierd.
Excuse me but I'd like to get paid by the Russians. Who do I contact?
Right?! What is the going rate these days? What's rubles to dollars?!
Lol you want to talk to me about a few removed comments when you got banned from several instances and had some of your entire subs nuked for being a disgusting sealioning troll. How are those alts you bragged about coming? I keep seeing those get banned too and it warms my heart.
You don't see any "alts" banned. Because I don't have any. You see UM everwhere you look. Which is hilarious to me. The fact that you feel for the whole "group of trolls all joined up to change the election!!" is so funny.
Your paranoia is taking over friend. Here's the modlog: https://lemmy.world/c/politics
What hypothetical "alts" of mine do you think have been banned?! lol That place is a toxic hellhole, why would I ever even post there?! It's a joke now. It's all you guys crying over and over.
Besides, I was right. The polls DID show Trump gaining on Harris. And he DID win.
I have nothing to be ashamed about. I stand by everything I said, because I was correct. :)
No the left has people who will verbally insult you better because you're threatening their right.
That's not hate. There is very little hate on the left, most of it is anger from having to survive.
But I'm not threatening their rights, that's my point.
Lol voting for Trump you are
But I didn't vote for Trump. What gave you that impression? I've never voted for Trump and I never would.
Okay congratulations?
If you vote for trump you are threatening people's rights. They have every right to be upset.
You're whining that some people are upset at you, their rights are being taken away they have a right to express that.
How are you not following lmfao
I am following. You literally said, "Lol voting for Trump you are"
And I was clarifying that I am not voting for Trump.
If you mean the people in the article, then say "they" rather than "you" in threads under the article. Because by saying "You" I assumed you meant me, the OP.
It's not that hard.
How are you not following that? lmfao
I wouldn't because we are talking about a them(leftists online) and a you, there is no "they" here to speak of.
Regardless you're being pedantic and faking why you can't understand people's very fair outbursts as opposed to the very silly outbursts the other side presents as equally important.
No, you just failed to admit you weren't clear. Pretty easy to identify who you are talking about in a thread directly related to an article, friend.
And I don't think lashing out at every single person who didn't vote for harris are "fair outbursts." And like I fucking originally said, I had a similar experience to the person in the article, all just because I voted third party.
So rather than accusing every single person in the US who didn't vote for Harris, of being a fascist, and talking about how much they hate Trump, Democrats should regroup and refocus.
Dems even lost the fucking popular vote! That's a fucking sign, friend. They need to change how they do things, or this will happen next election too. Finger-pointing and accusations everywhere won't fix shit.
Or they can just keep on doing what they are doing. I didn't vote Democrat. And I won't be voting Democrat, so in the end, I don't give a shit. I proudly voted Socialist, and I'll proudly vote Socialist next time too.
We all good now?
Nah we not good you cry too hard over simple conversation.
That literally their entire life ^
Says the guy who was so mad because I was right, that he wrote a program, and then offered it to other people, to keep track of me on Lemmy. Just because I posted news articles that mentioned that Trump was on his way to winning the election.
And look what happened. Trump won, like they said. I voted Socialist, like I said. And I'm still here, like I said I would be.
Hey, are you still trying to tell people that I live in Russia and get paid in rubles, or that I'm linkerbaan? What other conspiracy theories do you have about me? lol
stop crying bro jeez
I'm not crying, tho. I think it's hilarious that you just can't admit you were wrong.
I'm not crying, because I was right.
nah you aren't you literally can't read
I can, but you don't know how to write your meaning clearly in discussion threads.
You seem to be having difficulty determining who has self identified as an enemy to your rights.
I agree; your mileage will absolutely vary, and unfortunately, likely be truncated by the very people you're apparently acting as an apologist for.
I'm not acting as an apologist for anyone. Just because I disagree with you or have a different point of view does not mean I am being an apologist for people.