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The reality is that it always takes time for some states to count all the votes; when these rumors started ramping up, there were over ten million uncounted ballots in California alone. But, many people don't know that this is how things always work. So, with emotions high in the aftermath of the election, disinformation purveyors are taking advantage of the opportunity to get well-intentioned people to help amplify conspiracy theories.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only conservatives are allowed to claim election fraud, even if the evidence is literally incontrovertible that republicans stole it. Nice

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the evidence you find "literally incontrovertible"?

The comparison is apt though:

  • In 2020, almost all non-partisan voting rights organizations and election experts (as well as most Republicans, despite losing) were saying that there was in fact no evidence of widespread election fraud. So conservatives claiming election fraud were seen as conspiracy theorists who were spreading disinfo (either intentionally or because they really thought there was evidence).

  • In 2024, almost all non-partisan voting rights organizations and election experts (as well as most Democrats, despite losing) are saying that there was in fact no evidence of widespread election fraud. So ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you think there was "no widespread evidence" that's wilful ignorance. Have you just not heard a single thing republicans have been doing to steal the election? Do you live under a rock? Or do you just want trump to stay in office?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think the Director of CISA -- who Biden appointed (and has done a great job) and Trump will almost certainly fire -- lives under a rock and wants Trump to take office? Because here's what she said:

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/news/statement-cisa-director-easterly-security-2024-elections

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think she's a coward who thinks she'll be spared if she starts kissing trump's ass now. Her statement has no bearing at all on the fact that shit tons of republican voters stuffed and stole and burned ballot boxes leading up to the election, or how they're continuing to intimidate other voters, or EVERYTHING IN GEORGIA, or the repeated threats from Trump, the GOP, and authors of Project 2025 towards anyone who would resist their revolution. The election was stolen, plain and simple, and acting like an enlightened centrist about it won't get you put in a camp any slower than people who know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Who the fuck would downvote this? There's shit tons of literal evidence that republicans cheated this election, are yall really just gonna put your fingers in your ears and ignore it?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Genuinely, are you just denying the fact that trump supporters everywhere stole and burned and forged shit tons of ballots?