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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree that it is somewhat pessimistic, but the key part is the amount of money in it. History has shown that capitalism (especially in the US) has long lasting impacts that we cannot comprehend yet. I think clear regulations and safety standards are crucial to make AVs useful for people.

[–] yonder 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yup. The worst part is how the problems AVs claim to solve are already solved using existing technology that have other benefits like fewer emissions and physical activity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But a handful of people won't get rich off nationalized rail or municipal transit. A handful of people will get rich by private solutions like self driving cars.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly this. Also a few self driving cars where they make sense will not make a handful rich.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I think Jason said it well in the video, "there's no money to be made in making the streets safer, so the only solution to the dangers caused by the old cars has to be buying new cars."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn’t even have to be nationalized. Bring back the railroad barons and lets party like it’s the 20s.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It is also just as much an issue that all the problems AVs are trying to solve are 100% self inflicted due to how the infrastructure is build. Its not solving the root problem at all that is the car dependency.