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[–] explodicle 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Trump won both times because he departed from GOP ideology, not his voters. Harm reduction doesn't get voters to the polls.

This isn't about you and me. A campaign centered around "stop this person" is just less effective than one centered around "let's start doing this".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Just saying this is a hypothetical reality. As you say, it doesn't get people to the polls.

What it means is folks have to live with a FURTHER candidate because they aren't smart enough to serve their own interests and take the NEARER candidate.

[–] explodicle 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The difference is that expecting the candidate to change was a realistic expectation, while expecting the voters to change was not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I disagree, especially on Israel. Change would mean deviation from the official position. Imo it is a weakness with running a candidate who is already in the Whitehouse. They can't just say things, weather or not they want to, if that will have strategic/military implications. An outside candidate is free to say whatever. (To be clear, I don't believe Harris wanted to deviate much)

Lastly, I think my whole point is I'm not expecting anything from anyone, I'm observing how voter's inability to accept a good not great candidate results in a much worse candidate, so inaction results in a even less satisfying outcome.