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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This time, the election wasn't about dems or reps, it was about democracy or fascism. If you didn't vote, means you are ok with fascism.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or just incredibly ignorant. I think we vastly overestimate the political intelligence of the people in this country.

There are a metric fuckton of apathetic people that are "too busy" to give a shit about politics unfortunately. Hell just look at the articles after the election that called out Google searches for "did Biden drop out?" spiking on election day.

These people are too busy watching whatever braindead Netflix bullshit, or just not watching anything at all to know what's even going on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That can't excuse them.

Even if they lived in a bubble, it's impossible that they never heard anything about all the orange turd rants and how dangerous he is. Not voting for any reason makes you an accomplice of whoever wins, because your apathy means you are ok with whatever goes, including fascism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That might be correct but it's not going to get more people to vote, which is what we need to happen.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But when you look at what people said in the exit poll interviews, most were not voting for fascism when they voted for Trump. They were voting on the illusion that he would be better for their pocket book.

In exit polls, people actually hated Trump and his extremism significantly more, but they’re hurting so much financially that they were willing to roll the dice on his “I’ll take you back to 2017-19” bullshit.

He go in the same way other strongmen often get into power, claims of economic populism.

[–] SreudianFlip 1 points 1 month ago

Billionaires own the legacy media and most social media.

In other words, they control the means of social reproduction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, it’s true that this election was about democracy vs fascism, but the election result tells us that it’s possible to see the election from other angles where it’s about other things. I think the Democratic party has to view the election from those angles, see what those things are, and take that to heart.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I think that's a great way to look at it. I'm hoping we can get some better leadership in the democratic party willing to listen to people and offer fresh ideas instead of taking the "if you don't vote for me then you're hitler" approach.
Leaning to the right didn't work for Harris. We need someone to energize the base by offering meaningful change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, it’s true that this election was about democracy vs fascism, but the election result tells us that it’s possible to see the election from other angles where it’s about other things.

Yes and it's extremely possible to think the election was about something else when every available form of media talked about it being about something else.