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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It isn't credible now. It likely won't exist at all in 4 years. Unless it cedes even more decision making authority to the US and becomes even more of a puppet.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The main point I was making is that Trump is almost certainly going to pull the US out of NATO altogether.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If not attempt to destroy it outright in an attempt to extort it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only if he gets attention or money for doing so. Those are his two gods, and he serves no others.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He serves Putin because Putin gives him attention and money. It's the same gods.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Putin also kinda obviously has some serious dirt on him

[–] Rampsquatch 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

What dirt could he possibly have that the MAGA crowd gives two shits about?

[–] iwndwyt 1 points 3 weeks ago

I doubt there's anything that will sway them. My guess is he's in massive financial debt to the Russian mafia or directly to Putin. He's afraid of being suicided out a window defenestration style.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't all authority already lie with the USA? If we're going to be real, I mean. I'm sure France thinks otherwise but let's be real: NATO was always the "Uncle Sam will protect Europe from Russia"-treaty.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

France knows this, that's why it wasn't in NATO for most its history. This only changed when one of our president needed war crime buddies

[–] Estiar 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

C'est faux. France is one of the founding members of NATO, however for much of the time it was under a French Command instead of a combined command.