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Edit 11:55 PM Pacific
Kentucky (8), Indiana (11), West Virginia (4), Florida (30), South Carolina (9), Tennessee (11), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Oklahoma (7), Arkansas (6), North Dakota (3), South Dakota (3), Nebraska (5*), Wyoming (3), Louisiana (8), Texas (40), Ohio (17), Missouri (10), Montana (4), Utah (6), Idaho (4), Iowa (6), Kansas (6), North Carolina (BG-16), Georgia (BG-16), Pennsylvanya (BG-19) called for Trump.

Vermont (3), Connecticut (7), District of Columbia (3), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Illinois (19), New Jersey (14), New York (28), Colorado (10), California (54), Washington (12), Oregon (8), Virginia (13), Hawaii (4), New Mexico (5), New Hampshire (4), Minnesota (10) for Harris.

2 counties in PA have extended voting hours due to voting machine problems. 9:30 PM in one, 10:00 PM in the other.

Multiple precincts in Georgia have extended hours due to bomb threats.

Edit 03:09 PM Pacific Harris wins Guam.

https://www.guampdn.com/news/guam-picks-harris-over-trump-in-non-binding-presidential-straw-poll/article_657b06b8-9b97-11ef-9896-1302c4e2ebe9.html

This thread is for the Presidential election, my plan is to start marking wins as soon as they are called, sorted by time zone.

Some states are going to take longer than others. Polls generally close at 8 PM local time, but they can't start counting early/mail in votes until after the polls close.

Wisconsin in particular has an interesting system where ballots are collected by MUNICIPALITY, not precinct, they have over 1,800 ballot counting locations and don't report until ALL 1,800 are in.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/10/22/wisconsin-voters-election-milwaukee-security-denier

Currently 232 EC votes from Blue States:

4+19+10+7+3+3+4+10+11 +4+14+28+4+3+13+54+12 +10+5+8+6

42 EC votes from Battleground States:

10+15+11+6

NC called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.

GA called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.

PA called for Trump. -19 here, +19 to Trump.

Which leaves 264 EC votes in Red States.

9+6+6+6+8+6+10+5+3+7 +3+40+30+11+8+17+9+11+4+3+4+4+3+16+16+19

270 to Win.

Online map here!

https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

It's game over if Michigan falls to Trump. Good job being mealy mouthed about genocide. We can't upset AIPAC can we?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Gaza is definitely gone now. China probably moves on Taiwan. Ukraine is finished.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago

Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

It's going to boil down to ~~VA~~, PA, MI, WI, MN. A Trump win in any of them puts him over the top. Harris has to take all ~~five~~ four. VA just got called for Harris. 1 down, 4 to go.

MSNBC called PA for Trump, that's it. It's over.

But the "Anti-Genocide" vote in Michigan is not significant.

Donald Trump 47,322,739 votes (52.5%)
Kamala Harris 41,760,788 votes (46.3%)
Jill Stein 334,826 votes (0.4%)
Chase Oliver 334,504 votes (0.4%)
Robert Kennedy 291,829 votes (0.3%)
Other candidates 160,156 votes (0.2%)

Harris is down 6 million. The other protest votes are 10% of that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

When the "anti-genocide" people accelerated and intensified the outcome of the existing genocide by protest voting for spoiler candidates it is really hard to muster any sympathy.

Sometimes you have to be willing to play politics in order to win at politics. Purity testing doesn't count for shit when the opposition is literally in favor of enslaving the entire human race for sport.

Way to go! You really showed the lesser of two evils who's boss, while the ultra-nationalist psycopaths erradicate millions more innocent people. Nice fucking job 👏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Harris played it safe and it looks like she's going to lose anyway, so maybe she should've considered more progressive ideas. Or maybe listened to her constituents instead of doing what Democrats always fucking do, and playing off the "you have to vote for us because we're not them."

But no, let's blame the voters for a candidate failing to win them over.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm fine with tacking to the left. She was not the candidate to do it. Until you have someone who is willing to threaten to rally the same kind of structural violence that Donald Trump is capable of in opposition, and actually make good on it, then moving to the middle is the only logical option. We either get serious about forcing our positions by any means necessary or pander to the lowest common denominator. Those are the only two options.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

then moving to the middle is the only logical option.

And Democrats will continue to lose because of this. Americans are tired of progress not happening, so I have to disagree with you.

Democrats needed to rally the country and get them excited behind a progressive candidate actually willing to reflect their constituency. But they won't, because that's somehow considered radical by Democrats.

The Democrats keep trying this middle-of-the-road status quo bullshit, and they keep losing. So maybe middle of the road isn't the play anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The spoiler candidates weren't really a factor, at least not in MI. We'll see how it plays out elsewhere, but as noted above, Harris being down 6 million and ALL the spoilers COMBINED for 600K.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

They drove down enthusiasm, and refocused the attention away from the global threat to democracy. So, no offense, but I completely fucking disagree. The fate of Palestine is negligible in comparison to the long term threat of global authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

the county trends in swing states compared to 2020 are extremely discouraging.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This makes the assumption that the protest vote went to Jill Stein.

I've been saying the entire time that both of these candidates were in a race with the couch.

Harris didn't give voters something to show up for. So they chose the couch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not JUST Jill Stein. The combined total of ALL the "also ran" candidates doesn't cover the gap between Trump and Harris.

Even if they all voted for Harris, it wouldn't make a difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Which one of those candidates is "I didn't vote because I didn't feel represented?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I expect, when the votes are all counted, you won't see a significant difference in the percentage of non-voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We're going to need to look at post election polling I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Oh, definitely!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

I think that Harris will take Michigan (Go Blue! literally), but I'm really afraid that it won't matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

It's at 33% counted right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Bruh there are already people in this thread trying to blame the people trying to say that her stance on genocide was losing this election.

What a fucking disaster.