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I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you're a hunter-gatherer.

So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I'm not an exception.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is that added sugar, or sugar from the other ingredients?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

The Ragu one has 0g added sugar, so for that one it's just the tomato sugar, so it's misleading.

[–] ryathal 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't ultimately matter, but it looks like total sugar. I don't believe fage has added sugar, but it has some left from the milk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But it does matter a great deal. The sugars innately in most fruits usually have a low glycemic index, so generally aren't really that bad for you.

So presenting granulated sugar to represent the innate sugars in a tomato is misleading.

[–] ryathal 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fruits healthfulness is commonly exaggerated. Consuming the fiber in whole fruit along with the sugar is better than just straight sugar, but it's still something that should be moderated. Most fruits have way more sugar than fiber as well. Also that really only applies to whole uncooked fruit, using heat and mashing up fruit removes pretty much any of the benefit from the fiber.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

When you juice it, the natural sugar has the same effect as added sugar.

It's only better when it's locked in with the fruit solids because then it's a slow release rather than a fast sugar shock to your system, which can fuck with your insulin tolerance because that also needs to spike for your body to do anything with all that sugar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The “other” ingredients is tomato puree, salt, and herbs like oregano. There isn’t any sugar except the processed sugar that they add to the sauce.

Tomato sauce is surprisingly easy to make. There’s virtually no need to buy sauce from a jar unless you just can’t be bothered to do anything yourself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Or you have a busy life?

I hate this mindset of, if you don't make all these things yourself you just can't be bothered to do anything yourself. Guy, I have a super busy day to day, I'm struggling to find time to work out every day, I'm not making all my food from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I feel exactly the same way, but I have to find time as often as I can. Most prepared food is garbage, and I'm cooking for people I care about.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Go for it. Just know you’re sacrificing your health, which makes you wonder why you’re going to the gym in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So if I don't do every single thing there's no point at all? If I order meal prep, I'm not making my meals so might as well not go for a jog?

With that mindset I hope you never do a single unhealthy thing because if so, it makes me wonder why you're even taking the time to make your meals. I hope your doing cardio every day, if not, why even bother with meal prep if your heart is shit. I hope your monitoring your micros and macros, if not, you're just wasting time making meals... This all or nothing mindset that you're pushing is why people don't even bother. You just told me, if I'm not making meals then why even go to the gym. You're telling people there's no point in working out unless they do all this extra stuff that people don't have time for. Why? Why discourage healthy behavior?

Also, this just sounds privileged as fuck. I'm glad you have a life where you don't have to work that much or have that many responsibilities outside work, but all of us aren't lucky enough to have the time to make every meal from scratch. Sometimes I don't have a free moment to myself all day. And other days I don't have the time to do it. And plenty of people don't have the money to buy all fresh ingredients that spoil quickly if not used. Jesus dude, out of touch much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Tomatoes have plenty of sugar in them… most fruits do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Tomato puree has a lot of sugar, because tomatoes contain a lot of sugar. Pure 3-times concentrated tomato puree is 18% sugar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

For example, the Ragu 'Simply' is only your "other ingredients". The only sugar in that sauce is innate to the Tomatoes used in the puree.

Sugars exist in all sorts of foods and when it's incidental to the fruit and/or vegetable content it's mostly fine.